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Unreliable reconstructions

This article as well as several others on the topic of Uralic uses reconstructions from the Uralic Etymologische Wörterbuch (UEW). However, it is widely acknowledged that the UEW is unreliable and filled with incorrect reconstructions. In the words of Juho Pystynen: [the UEW] is probably the worst offender of the Hungarian reconstruction-by-fiat paradigm, and it has done major damage to the study of Uralic historical phonology in recent decades. At first approximation, it is only suitable as a source of lexical data or bibliographic information. Much better (though somewhat outdated) reconstructions can be found in Sammallahti (1988). Stockhausenfan (talk) 13:37, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Possible origins of the Uralic language family

Is this information regarding the possible origins of the Uralic language family correct?

New research has unlocked the mystery of the Uralic languages spoken in Finland, Hungary, and Estonia today. Scientists analyzed DNA from 180 newly sequenced Siberian populations spanning 11,000 years of human history. The Around 4,500 years ago, ancestors of modern Uralic speakers lived in northeastern Siberia (Yakutia) - closer to Alaska than Finland. This ancient homeland in the taiga forests was the starting point for an incredible linguistic journey across continents. The Seima-Turbino Connection: About 4,000 years ago, advanced bronze-casting technology swept across northern Eurasia, coinciding with the spread of these languages. Archaeological sites reveal sophisticated bronze weapons and ornaments that tell the story of extensive trade networks and cultural exchange. The DNA analysis shows a fascinating mosaic linking communities from Yakutia to Hungary and Scandinavia's Sámi people. While some groups like Hungarians show diluted genetic markers over time, others like northern Russia's Nganasan people retain almost complete genetic lineage to ancient Yakutia. This research proves that small populations in frigid Siberian expanses created lasting impacts, reshaping linguistic landscapes across vast stretches of Eurasia for millennia to come.

98.123.38.211 (talk) 02:43, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Language is not in the genes. What this research shows is that the ancestors of Uralic peoples plausibly arrived from Eastern Siberia, but whether or not the language family originates there or not remains to be seen. Thadh (talk) 08:34, 23 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]