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G7 and Russia's Invasion of Ukraine
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During mid-2015, Harper repeatedly voiced his opinion that Russia should be excluded from association with the G7 group of nations because of Russia's support for Russian-speaking Ukrainian dissidents. On June 8, Harper said, "Mr. Putin ... has no place at the [G7] table, and I don't believe there's any leader who would defend Mr. Putin having a place."
is putting a spin on both Harper's remarks and on the war in Ukraine that is not supported by the cited refered. It is claiming that the war in Ukraine at that time was being conducted by "Russian-speaking Ukrainian dissidents" with Russia's support, rather than being primarily conducted by Russia. Harper's actual comments (see the the video in the source cited for this paragraph) https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/stephen-harper-renews-attack-on-russia-s-vladimir-putin-over-ukraine-1.3104202 were that Russia "illegally annexed Crimea" and "invaded eastern Ukraine". The quoted paragraph above about Russia's exclusion from the G7 should reflect these explicitly stated reasons. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.41.70.97 (talk) 11:14, 17 June 2025 (UTC)
GAR
[edit]- Article (edit | visual edit | history) · Article talk (edit | history) · Watch • • Most recent review
- Result: Kept Tags and major concerns appear to be resolved Aircorn (talk) 18:42, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
Article has several citation needed tags, a lead that doesn't meet MOS:LEAD, and a four-year old neutrality tag on one section. These issues need to be resolved for the article to remain a GA according to GA criteria. (t · c) buidhe 20:44, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
- @Buidhe: I'm a bit unsure as to whether the {{POV}} tag matters anymore. It was from a dispute that ended four years ago. The section has since changed, though I would like consensus before removal. Username6892 (Peer Review) 21:07, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
- @Username6892: If the dispute has been resolved, it's OK to remove the POV tag—better than leaving it in place indefinitely. (t · c) buidhe 05:46, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
- Delist, quite a few tags and unsourced statements, no action for a few months. CMD (talk) 12:35, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
- Keep. It would seem that User:Randusk recently did some very good work to fill in requested citations. I no longer see any cleanup tags. As for the lead, it seems okay to me, other than being a smidge too long. But I wouldn't flunk this for GA because of that. (@Buidhe: perhaps you could elaborate on the MOS:LEAD issues you see, assuming they still apply?) Colin M (talk) 19:44, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- Glad to see the cleanup tags have been dealt with, but there remains further clearly unsourced text throughout the article, a series of single paragraph sections, and various sections that read as wp:proseline. CMD (talk) 04:54, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- Interesting looking at older revisions of this page to see how the infobox pics have changed over the months (not years) ...
* The 8 citation needed tags mentioned by User:buidhe have all disappeared ...
- Agree with other comments, the lead is far too long. The third paragraph needs considerable trimming.
- I am not enamoured of having three photographs in the Foreign Policy section. Looks a bit WP:CRUFT to me.
- Why is the reassessment on the talk page twice? I cannot see why this is necessary. It duplicates the earlier assessment by User:buidhe ... I don't know what this particular editor's point is in creating a so-called (→GA Reassessment: new section). Is there a direction to this effect that is to be done? I'd like to know.
- 72 bots on page with Internet Archive bot visiting on 1 February 2020
- Page created on 7 June 2003 with 8,031 edits by 2,708 editors. 3,873 edits in the year 2006.
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- Justin might be Prime Minister but this fellow is still getting a lot of page views: 116,578 in the last 90 days with daily average = 1,281
- There is a statement on Electoral history of Stephen Harper the to the effect that Harper led the Conservative Party in five general elections. He won three (2006, 2008 and 2011) and lost two (2004 and 2015). He won minority governments in the 2006 and 2008 elections, and a majority in the 2011 election. He lost the 2015 election to Justin Trudeau. This might be an appropriate inclusion at the end of the lede.
- I am not comfortable with the relevance of this particular citation: In 1994, he opposed plans by federal Justice Minister Allan Rock to introduce spousal benefits for same-sex couples. Citing the recent failure of a similar initiative in Ontario, he was quoted as saying, "What I hope they learn is not to get into it. There are more important social and economic issues, not to mention the unity question. Given the current mileau of rights for same-sex couples, this is a bit of an anachronism if not a particular POV inclusion.
- The sections Reform MP, Out of Parliament and Canadian Alliance leadership all suffer from WP:Proseline, he did this, he did that, he aligned with this fellow, he aligned with that fellow, he made this statement, he made that statement. A bit of cleanup could be done in these sections. Are the MP's he aligned with or won support of really relevant?
- There is a bit of proseline or waffling around Zytaruk in the Leader of the Opposition section; this and the following paragraph might be surplus to needs. (This accusation, that investigation, that accusation, this investigation ... see earlier paragraphs about seizing power)
- The paragraph In his first address to Parliament as Prime Minister, is not necessary; the section is about the election and throws off to a main article.
- Reading Reference 153, it is not made clear - there, or in this article, why the government lost the motion of no confidence. Is this able to be rectified?
- Official Opposition → Is "Official" really needed with regard to an opposition?
- Yup. That's the term used in the House of Commons for the second largest party. The Leader of the Official Opposition has privileges that leaders of the third parties don't have. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 04:19, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
- No nigher
- No 184.145.37.199 (talk) 21:57, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
- Constitutional issues section does not appear on the main article Domestic policy of the Harper government. Why is it here? Why is it not mentioned on that page?
- Ditto 2011 Census, not mentioned on that page.
- Israeli and Jewish affairs is too long and needs to be reduced as this matter is covered on the Foreign Policy main page.
- Keep after attending to issues raised. --Whiteguru (talk) 06:52, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- Not sure what you're talking about wrt the cn tags, currently there are eleven in the article. (t · c) buidhe 06:58, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- I did a search yesterday on a revision of this article, and no tags popped up. Checking today, yes, they are there. Dunno how that happened. I have struck that out. --Whiteguru (talk) 22:47, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- Not sure what you're talking about wrt the cn tags, currently there are eleven in the article. (t · c) buidhe 06:58, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
GA Reassessment
[edit]- Article (edit | visual edit | history) · Article talk (edit | history) · Watch • • Most recent review
- Result: Kept Tags and major concerns appear to be resolved Aircorn (talk) 18:42, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
Article has several citation needed tags, a lead that doesn't meet MOS:LEAD, and a four-year old neutrality tag on one section. These issues need to be resolved for the article to remain a GA according to GA criteria. (t · c) buidhe 20:44, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
- @Buidhe: I'm a bit unsure as to whether the {{POV}} tag matters anymore. It was from a dispute that ended four years ago. The section has since changed, though I would like consensus before removal. Username6892 (Peer Review) 21:07, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
- @Username6892: If the dispute has been resolved, it's OK to remove the POV tag—better than leaving it in place indefinitely. (t · c) buidhe 05:46, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
- Delist, quite a few tags and unsourced statements, no action for a few months. CMD (talk) 12:35, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
- Keep. It would seem that User:Randusk recently did some very good work to fill in requested citations. I no longer see any cleanup tags. As for the lead, it seems okay to me, other than being a smidge too long. But I wouldn't flunk this for GA because of that. (@Buidhe: perhaps you could elaborate on the MOS:LEAD issues you see, assuming they still apply?) Colin M (talk) 19:44, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- Glad to see the cleanup tags have been dealt with, but there remains further clearly unsourced text throughout the article, a series of single paragraph sections, and various sections that read as wp:proseline. CMD (talk) 04:54, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- Interesting looking at older revisions of this page to see how the infobox pics have changed over the months (not years) ...
* The 8 citation needed tags mentioned by User:buidhe have all disappeared ...
- Agree with other comments, the lead is far too long. The third paragraph needs considerable trimming.
- I am not enamoured of having three photographs in the Foreign Policy section. Looks a bit WP:CRUFT to me.
- Why is the reassessment on the talk page twice? I cannot see why this is necessary. It duplicates the earlier assessment by User:buidhe ... I don't know what this particular editor's point is in creating a so-called (→GA Reassessment: new section). Is there a direction to this effect that is to be done? I'd like to know.
- 72 bots on page with Internet Archive bot visiting on 1 February 2020
- Page created on 7 June 2003 with 8,031 edits by 2,708 editors. 3,873 edits in the year 2006.
- 31 protection events for this page. Sensitive.
- Justin might be Prime Minister but this fellow is still getting a lot of page views: 116,578 in the last 90 days with daily average = 1,281
- There is a statement on Electoral history of Stephen Harper the to the effect that Harper led the Conservative Party in five general elections. He won three (2006, 2008 and 2011) and lost two (2004 and 2015). He won minority governments in the 2006 and 2008 elections, and a majority in the 2011 election. He lost the 2015 election to Justin Trudeau. This might be an appropriate inclusion at the end of the lede.
- I am not comfortable with the relevance of this particular citation: In 1994, he opposed plans by federal Justice Minister Allan Rock to introduce spousal benefits for same-sex couples. Citing the recent failure of a similar initiative in Ontario, he was quoted as saying, "What I hope they learn is not to get into it. There are more important social and economic issues, not to mention the unity question. Given the current mileau of rights for same-sex couples, this is a bit of an anachronism if not a particular POV inclusion.
- The sections Reform MP, Out of Parliament and Canadian Alliance leadership all suffer from WP:Proseline, he did this, he did that, he aligned with this fellow, he aligned with that fellow, he made this statement, he made that statement. A bit of cleanup could be done in these sections. Are the MP's he aligned with or won support of really relevant?
- There is a bit of proseline or waffling around Zytaruk in the Leader of the Opposition section; this and the following paragraph might be surplus to needs. (This accusation, that investigation, that accusation, this investigation ... see earlier paragraphs about seizing power)
- The paragraph In his first address to Parliament as Prime Minister, is not necessary; the section is about the election and throws off to a main article.
- Reading Reference 153, it is not made clear - there, or in this article, why the government lost the motion of no confidence. Is this able to be rectified?
- Official Opposition → Is "Official" really needed with regard to an opposition?
- Yup. That's the term used in the House of Commons for the second largest party. The Leader of the Official Opposition has privileges that leaders of the third parties don't have. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 04:19, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
- No nigher
- No 184.145.37.199 (talk) 21:57, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
- Constitutional issues section does not appear on the main article Domestic policy of the Harper government. Why is it here? Why is it not mentioned on that page?
- Ditto 2011 Census, not mentioned on that page.
- Israeli and Jewish affairs is too long and needs to be reduced as this matter is covered on the Foreign Policy main page.
- Keep after attending to issues raised. --Whiteguru (talk) 06:52, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- Not sure what you're talking about wrt the cn tags, currently there are eleven in the article. (t · c) buidhe 06:58, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- I did a search yesterday on a revision of this article, and no tags popped up. Checking today, yes, they are there. Dunno how that happened. I have struck that out. --Whiteguru (talk) 22:47, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- Not sure what you're talking about wrt the cn tags, currently there are eleven in the article. (t · c) buidhe 06:58, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
Harper as a member of the committee of 300
[edit]Stephen Harper is a member of the committee of 300. A significant part of his biography that is omitted. A part of such an entry should include what is the committee of 300 and how did Harper end up on it. 66.185.202.161 (talk) 20:26, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
Preceded by John Key
[edit]The article currently lists John Key as preceding Stephen Harper. They must mean Jean Chretien.
Semi-protected, so I'm unable to edit, but this is a no brainer IMO. 198.2.78.141 (talk) 16:08, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
- (Or I suppose it should be Paul Martin, but either way, it certainly isn't Mr. Key.) 198.2.78.141 (talk) 16:08, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
- Look more closely at the infobox. He was preceded by John Key as IDU chairman. -- Earl Andrew - talk 16:10, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
- Right you are. Thanks for the correction! 198.2.78.141 (talk) 15:40, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- Look more closely at the infobox. He was preceded by John Key as IDU chairman. -- Earl Andrew - talk 16:10, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
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