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26th June undid Edits

Hi @amiago

Same edits were undone here too, so pasting the reply here too:

Thanks for the clarification. I now understand that NY Times is a valid source & NYPost isn't. However, additional sources may not be needed since the existing sources support the change intended:

1. FT (which is added a reference for those lines) has added the below lines to it's article at a later date to make it sound more neutral:

"Primavera Capital, the firm later founded by Fred Hu, has subsequently stated that he is not a member of the CCP or any other political party and was not a CCP member at the time when he was an executive at Goldman Sachs."

FT article link: https://www.ft.com/content/eac99fd9-0c30-4141-821a-45348f61c113

2. The other references added for the statement mention 'alleged' ties: The below statement in Guardian:

"DeSantis stripped four private schools of state scholarship money, alleging without evidence they had “direct ties to the Chinese Communist party”

Guardian article link: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/oct/02/ron-desantis-florida-private-schools-china-communist-party

Using the above mentioned existing reference(s), the sentence to be edited to one of the below options whichever you think is the best way to proceed:

OPTION 1: "In September 2023, Florida governor Ron DeSantis ended voucher programs for four Spring Education Group schools, citing concerns about ties to Primavera Capital Group. This was one of the measures against the Chinese Communist Party in the state of Florida. However, as per The Guardian the action taken against the four schools was without evidence."

OPTION 2: "n September 2023, Florida governor Ron DeSantis ended voucher programs for four Spring Education Group schools, citing concerns about ties to Primavera Capital Group, though as per Financial Times the firm denied having political connections with China's ruling party."

Please do let me know your comments. Thanks WorldPeace888 (talk) 02:47, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Where is the quote ascribed to the FT article actually coming from? It doesn't appear in the article itself. - Amigao (talk) 11:56, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the reply @Amigao.

Seems the ver. of FT you are referencing is the achieved/old ver:

Old ver. link: https://archive.is/pIqRi

The newer ver. of the same story/news is where they have added the additional line after last the paragraph.

Last para being: "HSBC has separately established CCP committees in other entities it controls in China, such as within its asset management joint venture with Shanxi Trust."

New ver. link: https://www.ft.com/content/eac99fd9-0c30-4141-821a-45348f61c113 If needed will update the FT source on the page with the new ver. of the article's link.

WorldPeace888 (talk) 14:22, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ownership changes, COVID impacts

I've restored the ownership change (eg NY and Ron DeSantis concerns of some form of Chinese ownership) removed by Bouncyball2019. This isn't frindge or undue, note four very well sourced references for the DeSantis thing.

I've also restored the COVID impacts, as it shows history that impacted the financials of the business. It could benefit from being pared or summarized, which is different than removing because it's not what SEG might want on this page. tedder (talk) 16:16, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Update Primavera location

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Hello, I would like to make a request to revert the edit mentioning Primavera being "China-based" back to "Asia Pacific-based."

Citations:

https://www.weforum.org/organizations/primavera-capital-group/

https://mba.hkust.edu.hk/mba-programs/mba-pulse/beyond-headlines-strategic-position-hong-kong-asias-next-growth-chapter

https://www.nature.org/en-us/about-us/who-we-are/our-people/fred-hu/

https://magnitt.com/investors/primavera-capital-55210

Thank you! NR12141988 (talk) 15:44, 1 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

To clarify, I believe you are asking for the parent company of Spring Education Group (which is Primavera) to be changed back to Asia Pacific-based. I will abstain but leaving the change I made you are requesting to revert so its easier for reviewers to see. --CNMall41 (talk) 16:10, 1 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This seems like such a weird issue to focus on, but let's go through them:

* weforum.org: article is by the source (primavera/Fred Hu). Ironically the one article in there is Hu talking about China.

* hkust MBA: article is by the source (primavera/Philip Hu).

* nature.org: article is a primary source, appears to be written or promoted by Fred Hu.

* magnitt: not a reliable source.

Pulling Primavera's site history, they were marketing themselves as 'China'-based a few years ago (see also [1]). What does the company say outside of its PR department? Its SEC filings focus on China and the risks of it. What do reliable sources say? In 2023 WSJ called it a "Chinese company". In Nov 2024 Fortune simply called it a "Chinese investment company". On the geopolitical side, A dozen politicians wrote with concerns of it being "[tied] to the CCP" or "a Chinese firm with ties to ByteDance". [2] [3] [4] [5]. The Congressional Research Service simply stated it is from China.

I can understand that Spring/Primavera's PR department would like to massage the messaging. You're welcome to do that on your own website. tedder (talk) 16:26, 1 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]