Talk:Sanctuary city

research misstated in lede

As of 2024-10-14, the fourth paragraph of the introduction begins, "Studies on the relationship between sanctuary status and crime have found that sanctuary policies either have no effect on crime or that sanctuary cities have higher crime rates and weaker economies than comparable non-sanctuary cities", citing four references. Skimming those references, one said "no effect" while the other three said sanctuary cities were safer and at least one said the economy was better.

I've just rewritten that sentence so it more clearly states the research including brief quotes from three of the references cited. DavidMCEddy (talk) 13:33, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

Article needs more specifics of sanctuary policies

The article is rather short on the details of how sanctuary cities do not cooperate with immigration authorities. This leaves sentences like, for example, "Sanctuary city policies substantially reduce deportations of illegal immigrants who do not have criminal records, but have no impact on those who have violent criminal records." lacking context. What are these policies? The sentence implies a difference in treatment between violent and nonviolent criminals, but what is that difference? 204.144.209.223 (talk) 11:46, 26 January 2025 (UTC)

Sanctuary cities in history

@Whirlingmerc and Irruptive Creditor: User:Whirlingmerc's addition of a section on "Sanctuary Cities in the Old Testament" looks to me more like a reasonable encyclopedia summary of the sources cited than WP:OR. Accordingly, I'm restoring this new addition.

If User:Irruptive Creditor still insists that this is WP:OR, please explain in more detail why this should be classed as such. Thanks, DavidMCEddy (talk) 12:42, 27 April 2025 (UTC)

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It's am important point sanctuary city if originally taken from the Biblical sanctuary city and cities claiming that stutus use the moral force of the Bible doing so in some manner where a person causing accidental death can flee there. There is only one example and ironically it's an example of abuse of sanctuary city which happened during the times of David and Solomon. An example of abuse of sanctuary in the Old Testament on several levels is Joab, who killed Abner in Hebron, a sanctuary city, though Abner was there not seeking refuge but for political negotiations (). This violated the city's purpose of protecting only unintentional killers, as Joab acted as avenger and killed Abner anyway. Later, Joab himself fled to the altar, grabbing its horns to claim asylum, but was executed since his premeditated murders disqualified him from sanctuary protection (). As Matthew Henry observes, “They that expect to find mercy with God must show mercy to their brethren” (), underscoring Joab’s failure to honor the very mercy he later sought. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Whirlingmerc (talk • contribs) 18:16, 27 April 2025 (UTC) References

here is a rewrite. Perhaps this is more aligned. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Whirlingmerc (talk • contribs) 20:10, 27 April 2025 (UTC)

Sanctuary Cities in the Old Testament

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The cities of refuge in the Old Testament provided protection for individuals guilty of unintentional manslaughter, requiring them to remain within the city until the death of the high priest, after which they could return home without fear of retribution (). An example related to this system appears in the case of Abner, who traveled to Hebron, a city of refuge, for political negotiations but was killed there by Joab, violating the city's intended protection for those accused of unintentional killing (). Later, Joab sought asylum by grasping the horns of the altar, a practice rooted in earlier asylum customs, but King Solomon ordered his execution, reasoning that Joab’s premeditated acts of murder disqualified him from sanctuary protection (). Scholars note that these narratives demonstrate both the intended function and potential misuse of sanctuary laws in ancient Israel. L. Daniel Hawk discusses how earlier ideas of asylum at sacred sites like altars—as seen in Joab’s case—were replaced by the system of cities of refuge, which incorporated judicial procedures and specific conditions for asylum, such as limiting protection to cases of unintentional manslaughter. Hawk argues that this shift reflects an evolution in Israel’s legal traditions, moving from ritual-based asylum toward a codified system balancing justice and mercy (). Some Christian theologians interpret the city of refuge system as a typological foreshadowing of Jesus Christ's atoning work. For example, Matthew Henry wrote that "the death of the high priest prefigured the satisfaction made by the death of Christ for the remission of sins" (). Similarly, Charles Spurgeon described Christ as "the true city of refuge, where the sinner finds safety," teaching that Christ's death releases believers in a manner analogous to the manslayer's release upon the high priest’s death (). The New Testament book of Hebrews describes Jesus as the Great High Priest who offers a once-for-all sacrifice for sins (). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Whirlingmerc (talk • contribs) 20:10, 27 April 2025 (UTC) References

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Confusion between US and UK terms

The term 'City of Sanctuary' in the UK, and 'sanctuary city' in the US do not refer to the same thing. 'Sanctuary city' has connotations of non-cooperation with immigration enforcement, but this is not true for the 'City of Sanctuary' movement.

This distinction was clear when the UK sections were added in 2016, but has since become confused because the phrase 'City of Sanctuary' has mostly been replaced with 'sanctuary city'. Again, this prase has a specific and different meaning (in relation to the eponymous organisation) and the term 'sanctuary city' is not used in the UK sources these sections draw from.

I also think the following sentences are wrong and unsourced: "European cities have drawn inspiration from the sanctuary movement in American cities. However, the term "sanctuary city" in Europe generally refers to cities committed to supporting legal refugees and asylum seekers, not illegal immigration." First, the term is 'City of Sanctuary' and is only applied in the UK, not the rest of Europe. The source 'Sanctuary Practices in International Perspectives' discusses sanctuary practices in Europe from medieval times to the present day, but I don't think states that the European movemement is inspired by the American one. Since this source covers the concept of sanctuary in general I think it is of limited use (I guess the section about tenuous biblical connections has already been ditched). 89.37.63.44 (talk) 12:07, 9 June 2025 (UTC)