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Hi @CNMall41, I see that you recently reverted edits on the page sourced from ndtv.com citing WP:NEWSORGINDIA. Before I added that source, I looked at (a) the article and the content, including who the authors were, and (b) searched at WP:RSPLIST as well as noticeboard discussions about NDTV.com as source and its reliability in this context. The specific article cited is published by NDTV News Desk and is not an editorial or opinion piece. Also, there is no consensus or discussion about unreliability of this source in the RS discussions. As such, I'd like to understand how WP:NEWSORGINDIA supports a reversal of the edit. This is not to say that I don't share the bias concerns, but would like to establish how the decision is drawn from policy or consensus currently available on Wikipedia. Thanks! — WeWake (talk) 00:55, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It comes from the WP:RSP list under the heading of WP:NEWSORGINDIA which was decided by "consensus currently available on Wikipedia" and also adopted by the Indian cinema task force here. Just because an article is published in a reliable source does not necessarily mean that the article is reliable. That is why the guidance exists. --CNMall41 (talk) 02:31, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
CNMall41, I am not sure if we're looking at the same thing? There is no mention of NDTV on WP:RSP or WP:NEWSORGINDIA. In fact, the Indian Cinema Task Force link that you just shared (here) lists NDTV in "green" with a checkmark as reliable. So if RSP through community consensus is not the issue, do you have an issue with the content of the article itself and are exercising personal judgement? Cheers! — WeWake (talk) 03:45, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
We are looking at the same thing. Just because NDTV is not listed in NEWSORGINDIA does not mean it doesn't fall under that. The pubs listed are "examples." Not my "personal judgement," but how it has been applied over and over and over again.--CNMall41 (talk) 03:48, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
CNMall41, Sure. In that case, can you point to me any discussion where this policy or understanding has been developed or applied over and over again, as you say? If you see, my original message was specifically around finding where this information exists (in a good faith manner, I may say) and not as a means to question you, but simply to understand where this policy and guideline exists to improve as an editor, and so far you've provided none except the claim that it does, which sounds like WP:BECAUSEISAIDSO. Consider this a learning opportunity for me and not a question on your intent, if possible. Cheers! — WeWake (talk) 04:01, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It is not WP:BECAUSEISAIDSO. If you want to toe ad hominems, I could always say that you just didn't hear it. You can search the reliable source noticeboard here or look through the deletion discussions linking to it here.
As I've clarified earlier, my comments don't question your motive, character or personal traits (thus not an ad hominen) but the specific position you have on the reliability of the source. In any case, I will seek consensus. Thanks! WeWake (talk) 04:32, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hopefully my comment at the noticeboard clarified for you. The links were not sent to say the publication is unreliable, only the specific source begin cited. --CNMall41 (talk) 04:45, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
