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Semi-protected edit request on 17 May 2021
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Remove all the references to the 2010-2011 Serie A trophy from the page. In particular:
- remove the relevant sentence from the third paragraph of the introduction
- remove the relevant sentence from the 2010-2011 season paragraph
- remove the trophy from the Honours section
The source (in italian) that is currently used to support his inclusion is misleading. It is essentially a page on the A.C. Milan website (archived) where all the players who took part in the campaign are mentioned and thanked out of respect. However, the Serie A rules do not allow players who leave a club to win "future trophies", even in the same season. 2A00:23C5:3408:4101:6D53:BBAC:E13A:2210 (talk) 23:01, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:56, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
- Remove "where he won the 2010–11 Serie A." from the third paragraph of the introduction.
- Remove "Despite leaving the club at half-season, he was still eligible for a 2010–11 Serie A winner's medal as Milan won the competition." from "2010-11 season".
- Remove "Serie A: 2010-11" from "Honours"
The main reason is that the source that is currently used does not say that Ronaldinho won the 2010-11 Serie A. It merely cites all the players that at some point in the 2010-2011 season played for A.C. Milan. Therefore, the above sentences need to be removed because of the lack of a reliable source. In particular, no reliable source can exist at all, because players who leave a club in the winter transfer window do not win any "future" trophy, even in the same season. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2a00:23c5:3408:4101:6d53:bbac:e13a:2210 (talk • contribs) 21:46, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
Note: I'm not confident enough with football rules to say whether or not he was qualified for the medal, but this source from the honors page declares that he won the medal despite leaving. I can't say if that is accurate, however as the page has since been removed from Squawka.com, possibly as a retraction. A S U K I T E 13:31, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
- Ronaldonih 41.116.99.61 (talk) 20:58, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the
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template. It doesn't seem this change has consensus from the limited responses. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:46, 18 June 2021 (UTC)- "no reliable source can exist at all, because players who leave a club in the winter transfer window do not win any "future" trophy, even in the same season."
- Rubbish, Cancelo left Man city in January to Bayern, Man city even beat bayern to win the UCL and cancelo still received a league title medal.
- Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jo%C3%A3o_Cancelo#Honours
- So stop saying false garbage Zinan10 (talk) 09:03, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 26 August 2021
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Someone pls update his photo currently in 2021 106.195.38.254 (talk) 09:49, 26 August 2021 (UTC) 106.195.38.254 (talk) 09:49, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
Not done for now: We would need an image with a compatible license. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:55, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
Ronaldinho has not won the 2010-11 Serie A
[edit]The page still includes multiple incorrect lines stating that Ronaldinho won the 2010-2011 Serie A. He could not have won such competition because he was sold to Flamengo in January 2011. Being sold to another football club implies that the old contract is terminated (in Ronaldinho's case with the mutual consent of both parties - him and A.C. Milan).
As such, Ronaldinho was not anymore an A.C. Milan player when they won the 2010-11 Serie A. The fact that A.C. Milan were kind enough to send him a medal for his contributions during the first half of the season, and to include him in the squad list on their website is irrelevant.
Imagine he was sold to another club in Serie A (i.e., to a direct competitor), rather than to Flamengo. We would definitely not say that he won the 2010-11 Serie A in that case. Then why is the case different with him having been sold to Flamengo?
Among other things, the sentence "Despite leaving the club at half-season, he was still eligible for a 2010–11 Serie A winner's medal as Milan won the competition" is false, and its only reference is A.C. Milan's website, which includes him in the squad list. However, they could have included anybody in the list, including Mickey Mouse. What I mean, is that it's not a reliable source, and even if it was, it would be wrong in this particular case.
May I ask, therefore, why the burden of the proof seems inverted in this case? I reckon all the references to winning the 2010-11 Serie A should be removed.
I am open to being wrong. If that is the case, I would like to receive a proper explanation (not the "establish consensus first" ad hominem - which is a known fallacy, by the way). 2A00:23C5:3408:4101:6D53:BBAC:E13A:2210 (talk) 22:55, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
- Don't be a silly son of a whiore, just because he was sold doesn't mean he didn't win serie A or didn't receive a medal, he made 11 appearances and contributed to their eventual success, he played enough matches to be awarded a title therefore he won serie A in 2011, so he should be added to his resume. Zinan10 (talk) 09:00, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 30 March 2022
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Add in the fact that he signed for RANS Cilegon F.C. in 2022. Source all the pages on https://www.google.com/search?q=Dinho+to+Cillegon+FC&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 2601:643:8300:4740:AD27:EB6D:C964:22BB (talk) 02:40, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. ––FormalDude talk 01:50, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
Ronaldinho should have in his wiki "widely regarded as one of the greatest players of all time" As it was there before
[edit]Ronaldinho is widely considered one of the greatest players of all time so I am not sure why this was taken out of his bio and replaced with "one of the most talented players ever" clearly this was edited by a hater. If this title can be included for players such as Baggio and Romario who in their regard are also all time greats certainly it should also be the case for ronaldinho as he is not only more talented than both but also won more individually and club-wise.
I will upload a link to an image that showed what was written on his wiki before it was edited
https://ibb.co/dmhqC65 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zinan10 (talk • contribs) 11:36, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
Team
[edit]What was ronaldinho is last team 81.28.124.133 (talk) 08:04, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
Him
[edit]He was a heavy drug attic 2001:56A:F9BC:6500:EDEE:6587:EECB:7AB1 (talk) 19:05, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 9 February 2023
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74.102.8.140 (talk) 00:53, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
You need to add his new club al nassr
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 01:00, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
Ronaldinho
[edit]Pourquoi personne ne s'intéresse a lui alors que c'est une légendes du foot les gens il préfère Ronaldo Messi alors que il ne sont pas comme Ronaldinho 193.121.187.86 (talk) 20:06, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
Ronaldinho was named World soccer player of the decade for the 2000's and should be included in honours
[edit]Ronaldinho was named World soccer player of the decade for the 2000's and should be included in honours
Source : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Soccer_(magazine)#Greatest_Players_of_the_20th_century Zinan10 (talk) 17:41, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
- Can someone please add this to his Individual honors?
- @Rizzle685
- @FMSky Zinan10 (talk) 11:23, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Done 👍 Rizzle685 (talk) 12:00, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Good, but there are some other achievements to add so i will just type them here rather than make a new post
- Ronaldinho was voted into the La Liga team of the decade for the 2000's, and was also named twice as the best foreign player in La liga, In 2004 and 2006
- Source is here- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Bal%C3%B3n_Award
- Please update @Rizzle685@FMSKY Zinan10 (talk) 12:59, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
- @FMSky Zinan10 (talk) 13:02, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Rizzle685
- Can someone please update this. Ronaldinho has 3 indiviudal honours missing
- 2 time La liga best foreign player and Voted into la liga team of the decade.
- Source - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Bal%C3%B3n_Award Zinan10 (talk) 11:53, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
- @FMSky Zinan10 (talk) 13:02, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
- Done 👍 Rizzle685 (talk) 12:00, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
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Ronaldinho was voted into the La Liga team of the decade for the 2000's, and was also named twice as the best foreign player in La liga, In 2004 and 2006
[edit]Source is here- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Bal%C3%B3n_Award
These are missing from his individual honours please add.
@Rizzle685 @FMSky Zinan10 (talk) 14:55, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
Fjord no yahhhhhhhy 2A12:F41:107B:F900:9953:F37C:F0BE:B9EB (talk) 16:52, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
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