Talk:Ron Dias

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Requested move 10 April 2025

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: No consensus. Opinion is divided over whether this Ron Dias is primary topic or not, so we retain the status quo. — Amakuru (talk) 00:13, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ron Dias → Ron Dias (animator)
Ron Dias (disambiguation) → Ron Dias

– As written, this article is not documenting a strong enough notability claim to earn WP:PRIMARYTOPIC rights for the undisambiguated name. It essentially amounts to "animator who existed", and doesn't really document any meaningful notability claims that would be strong enough to outrank the other people listed in the disambiguation page — essentially he only has the plain title because his article existed first. Bearcat (talk) 18:29, 10 April 2025 (UTC) — Relisting. Valorrr ^{(lets chat)} 16:17, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. This is the only article titled "Ron Dias", so there's no title conflict. Ron Dias (director) is merely a redirect and Ron Diaz and Rony Diaz are different names. Station1 (talk) 22:41, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirects are not excluded from consideration — the film director/producer is redirecting to his studio, and will likely qualify for his own standalone biographical article as soon as somebody gets around to writing one. So the animator doesn't automatically get to keep primary topic rights just because the other Ron Dias happens to be a redirect, because the other Ron Dias could potentially become not a redirect at any time. Bearcat (talk) 15:09, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If anybody ever writes an article about the director, this can be reconsidered. In the meantime, the redirect Ron Dias (director) has been tagged for speedy deletion because the article it pointed to has been moved to draft space (not by me). Station1 (talk) 19:02, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support: WP:PRIMARYRED says that in the case of a DAB page with one redlink and one bluelink, the bluelink is not automatically primary topic. This should probably also apply to a bluelink and a redirect. – Reidgreg (talk) 02:57, 11 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Addendum: Okay, so Ron Dias (director) is now a redlink and WP:PRIMARYRED now directly applies. Follow guidelines unless there's a good reason not to do so. – Reidgreg (talk) 05:02, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: WikiProject Animation, WikiProject Biography/Arts and entertainment, WikiProject Animation/American animation work group, WikiProject Biography, and WikiProject Animation/Animation people work group have been notified of this discussion. Valorrr ^{(lets chat)} 16:16, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisting comment: Getting more consensus. Valorrr ^{(lets chat)} 16:17, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. I can't see that the film director is even notable enough to have an article. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:47, 24 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.