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I did some research and both February 28 and February 29 1960 give equal results as Ramirez's date of birth. Not only that but both dates of birth are found in numerous reliable sources (including this [1]] NYTimes article written a day after his death showing his DOB as Feb 28. Here's where it gets even stranger. I searched the Texas Birth Database at Family Tree Legends and two results come up for Ricardo Ramirez (his birth name) one for Feb 28, 1960 and another for Feb 27, 1960. So now we have a possible third birth date, huh?? Can someone who has more knowledge in this area help to find out what Ramirez's actual date of birth is because right now it should at least say Feb 29 OR 28 in the article? Thanks. Emivam (talk) 04:06, 1 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I'll help look into this. If reliable sources are equally divided on the day of his birth, your solution is the right way to go. I know that Carlo has his birthday as the 29th - it's also worth noting that Feb. 29th is a leap year day that only occurs once every four years. If he was born on a leap year, there should be some notes on that out there. Keep digging. Doctalk01:00, 2 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
While Carlo's book says Feb. 29th I've found pictures of his birth certificate online and there are a few Q&A type papers he himself filled out in prison saying his birthday is Feb 28th, not the 29th.Kiwirush (talk) 10:25, 1 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Change 15 to 13 where the article mentions Ramirez's age when he witnessed his cousin shooting his wife. The incident happened on May 4, 1973 (stated on page 210 in Philip Carlo's book). Ramirez's birthday was in February, so therefore he was 13 at that point.
[1]2600:1700:8300:1AF0:F9AA:AC59:6552:1DB (talk) 11:51, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
request to change Feb29 to Feb28, see also the latest post in the section 'Different birthdates' that links to the birth certificate.
Interestingly, the name 'Leyva' doesn't show there either, so you might also want to remove it? 46.114.171.72 (talk) 10:47, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]