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but they do not seem to have been sex workers — what exactly made them "seem" to not be sex workers? In other parts of the text it's said that they were sexually available to their patrons.
It seems that for the first century or so in al-Andalus, qiyān were brought west after being trained in Medina or Baghdad, or were trained by artists from the east. It seems that by the 11th century, with the collapse of the Caliphate of Córdoba, qiyān tended to be trained in Córdoba rather than imported after training. It seems that while female singers still existed, enslaved ones were no longer found in al-Andalus in the 14th century CE. — three sentences in a row starting with the same phrasing. This is also a rather unusual choice of words. Why does it seem like that and to whom does it seem like that? Is that the opinion of a single researcher? If so, that researcher should be named.
I see that these phrasings originate with me. I agree that the repetition is ugly and is could be copy-edited! The underlying issue is that in both cases where I used the word 'seem', the historical evidence is limited, so although historians have a rough idea about what was happening and at what dates, it's hard to be sure.
A slave who is sexually available to their owner isn't a sex worker, in that they don't exchange their labour for payment. We don't have clear evidence that qiyān were sex workers -- but our evidence isn't good enough to say categorically that qiyān were never sex-workers.
Likewise, we don't know enough about the Andalusi situation to be certain of what was happening -- we can just make informed guesses based on the evidence available. Copy-editing to remove that triple repetition of 'seem' would be good though! Alarichall (talk) 08:03, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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