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Notable contemporary artists..

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If "Notable contemporary pin-up artists include Paul John Ballard, Elias Chatzoudis, Armando Huerta,Cris Delara and Chuck Bauman" then perhaps someone should work on Wikipedia entries for them. Centerone (talk) 03:59, 24 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

What's a "pin-up gimmick"?

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Quote: Also, Rayna Von Tosh, of SHIMMER fame had a burlesque pin up gimmick.

Whassat mean? Please clarify! Thanks, Maikel (talk) 11:12, 26 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Pin-up makeup style

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The makeup section is lacking structure and needs so rewording. Also, there is only one citation. Im working on a draft.Jpegallery (talk) 01:39, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yank Magazine

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Didn't the term "pin-up girl" originate with Yank: The Army Weekly? I can't find confirmation of that (yet), but it seems to be in my long-term memory. And since Yank was a major source of pin-ups during WWII, shouldn't there be a reference in the article - if, indeed, Yank had something to do with the term?

Isoruku (talk) 21:32, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yank must have had a big role in popularizing the term but they didn't invent it. According to the Oxford English Dictionary, the earliest documented use of the term was in Life magazine, July 7, 1941: "Dorothy Lamour is No. 1 pin-up girl of the U.S. Army." The first issue of Yank was published on June 17, 1942. Ewulp (talk) 00:54, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed merge of Beefcake into Pin-up model

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The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
The result of this discussion was…not to merge
Joyous! | Talk 03:50, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Pin-up model moved to be gender-neutral (instead of pin-up girl/cheesecake) back in 2016. Might as well finish the consolidation. VernoWhitney (talk) 18:50, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support. The beefcake article in nearly twenty years old and appears to be no more than start class. The pin-up model article already has specialist sections, such as African-American, so it should be able to accommodate the merger easily. -- Polly Tunnel (talk) 12:18, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
No, like no. A pin-up model should never be confused with a beefcake. Like end of story. I get that it's 2022 and there are plenty of dudes "pinning up" centerfolds from Playgirl of "Beefcakes" on their garage walls, but a pin-up girl/ model, should never be confused with a beefcake/ cheesecake, smh. Koskiryan (talk) 08:10, 18 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Pin-up dude; guy; male; ect., is 100% acceptable for Pin-up model, but never beefcake, like duh. Smh at whoever even proposed merging Beefcake into Pin-up model. Koskiryan (talk) 08:19, 18 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed. It would make more sense to cross reference Beefcake and Cheesecake, without merging either into here. MatchesMalone (talk) 15:55, 3 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Koskiran, this is Wikipedia, we have some expected standards of civility and professionalism, we try not to treat others as dumb or talk like stereotypical teenagers. It makes it hard to take your argument seriously. Dronebogus (talk) 06:20, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose merge, given that Beefcake is one of several independently notable subset of pin-up models (Page 3 Girl, Sweater girl and Beefcake for example), suggesting that these topics are best discussed separately. Klbrain (talk) 12:41, 8 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I don’t know the point of this merge proposal besides merging stuff for the sake of it. Dronebogus (talk) 16:53, 8 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Is it time to close this discussion? The proposal has been open for nine months. I've been the only voice to support it and all others have been against. I'd like to withdraw my support and suggest that someone closes this discussion with the result being a consensus opposed to the proposal. Polly Tunnel (talk) 14:40, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Wiki Education assignment: Technical and Professional Writing

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This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 21 August 2024 and 5 December 2024. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Gooeyfishi5 (article contribs).

— Assignment last updated by Gooeyfishi5 (talk) 13:11, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Plan to Edit.

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Hello, I have noticed that this article can benefit from slight modifications so that it strays away from biases of the pin-up model. I will be working on this webpage for the next couple of weeks for a class. Some aspects are flagged by Wikipedia, due to it's wording of personal essay life features and am really interested in making changes to this Wikipedia page so that it is more informative rather than argumentative. I would also like to make this article into a worldwide view, because this article leans towards the U.S and can be further explored in other areas of the world.

Feel free to give input and feedback over my future edits for the improvement of this Wikipedia page, if need be. Gooeyfishi5 (talk) 14:55, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Worldwide view?

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The article primarily focuses on pin-up's in the U.S during World War II. Is there any evidence of pin-up history anywhere else in the world? If there is, could we potentially include that history, or ideals in this page to represent a worldwide view? Gooeyfishi5 (talk) 16:26, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It does seem to be a Western thing. For an early example see above the remark on Charles Dickens's Bleak House in 1850. For an even earlier example, you could research the erotic wall paintings and pictures in Pompeii AD79. You will need secondary references to include any such examples in the article. Meanwhile I will remove the tag. 109.155.0.165 (talk) 13:32, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Biased POV on Feminism?

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I have noticed in the past of this talk page over the biased POV towards the Feminism section. I find that there are several words and phrases than lean towards feminism and present an argument that leans towards that ideal. But also, this article presents this argument and mentions lipstick as "a symbol of resilient femininity." I don't necessarily believe that it is important to note that in the "Hair and Makeup" section and would want to know how that fits into the article overall. But, it also comes from an unreliable source?

Should this be fixed? Gooeyfishi5 (talk) 01:04, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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