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This article has previously been nominated to be moved. Please review the prior discussions if you are considering re-nomination.

Discussions:

No consensus, 11 April 2007, from Ohio State University to The Ohio State University, see discussion.
No consensus, 26 April 2008, from Ohio State University to The Ohio State University, see discussion.
Not moved, 1 April 2014, from Ohio State University to The Ohio State University, see discussion.
Not moved, 20 March 2018, from Ohio State University to The Ohio State University, see discussion.
Not moved, 8 January 2024, from Ohio State University to The Ohio State University, see discussion.
Not moved, 7 May 2025, to The Ohio State University, see discussion.

Current policy on "the" in the article

According to the reversions, while the article name should *not* have the "the", in usage in the article it should. I've been able to find the RMs for the first, but not the discussion of the second, could someone please point out.Naraht (talk) 00:18, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussions are in the archives. I'm not sure exactly what you are looking for. The archives aren't really that long, so looking for any discussion that pertains to using THE in the article lead would be useful. Jojhutton (talk) 08:33, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree. ‘THE’ should absolutely be in the title name. In fact, I came here to check why it is not. I would like to petition this is changed. Example: The New York Times. Johnhwynne (talk) 11:15, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Emphasis on “The”

I’m sure I’m not the only person who has heard the peculiar way students and alumni of OSU refer to their university. They invariably call it “THE Ohio State” with an overemphasis on the “THE,” pronounced like “thee,” as in “My Country, ‘Tis of Thee…” Why do they do this? Are there other Ohio State Universities that could cause confusion? It is my understanding that simply saying “Ohio State” or “Ohio State University” would be clear and unambiguous, thus rendering the additional “THE” superfluous. Even if “the” is included because that’s the full official title, I still don’t understand the overemphasis. Could someone add a section to the article explaining this practice? It seems near universal. Thank You. 66.91.36.8 (talk) 08:25, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I came here to say the same thing. The "the" comes up all the time. They even attempted to trademark the word. The NYT has a whole article about it (which I can't read because it's behind a paywall). https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/23/us/the-ohio-state-university.html

I know many people are annoyed by topic and find it pedantic, but that's also why it deserves mention (because people talk about it and have strong opinions). I guarantee some (small) percent of people come to this page to read about the the.

Maybe a couple of sentences under Traditions if nothing else. XKL (talk) 17:10, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Foreign Head of State Alumnus?

In the introductory section of the article, it specifically states, “Past and present alumni and faculty include 6 Nobel Prize laureates, 9 Rhodes Scholars, 7 Churchill Scholars, 1 Fields Medalist, 7 Pulitzer Prizewinners, 64 Goldwater scholars, 7 U.S. senators, 15 U.S. representatives, 104 Olympic medalists, and 1 foreign head of state.” Who is this foreign head of state? I’ve scoured both this article and the article listing notable alumni and individuals associated with the university and found no mention of such a person in either. Granted, I didn’t verify the others listed in the excerpt either, but I assumed the head of state would be among the most noteworthy. Is this a typographical error? Did someone mix up Ohio State with Oregon State or Oklahoma State? If someone knows this foreign head of state’s identity, please add it to at least one of the articles I mentioned, but preferably both of them. And if so inclined, verify the rest of the list in the excerpt as well. Thank you. 66.91.36.8 (talk) 15:35, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 25 August 2024

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Remove academic boosterismn. 64.189.18.44 (talk) 21:31, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please be much, much more specific. ElKevbo (talk) 23:16, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Title

Its The Ohio State University. 2600:4041:5364:BF00:6FA5:19C3:24DB:1198 (talk) 01:04, 20 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Agree. Unfortunately some people don’t like the schools official name and use this article as a place to show it.Jojhutton (talk) 01:06, 20 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 7 May 2025

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Bobby Cohn 🍁 (talk) 16:05, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ohio State University → The Ohio State University – The university's legal and trademarked name is "The Ohio State University", as recognized by the United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO) and consistently used in official publications, diplomas, legal documents, and athletic branding. To reflect accuracy, respect institutional identity, and maintain consistency with other Wikipedia entries that use official names (e.g., "The Hague" or "The Walt Disney Company"), the article title and references should be updated accordingly. "Ohio State University" would violate Wikipedia's policies on copyright. WP:Copyrights Vanleos (talk) 14:23, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I have reviewed the previous RM's, which never mentioned that it violated copyright rules. I am apparently the first one to notice that. Also, The Ohio State University is the common name. Vanleos (talk) 14:37, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Vanleos: Can you please clarify how the article's current title "violate[s] Wikipedia's policies on copyright?" Thanks! ElKevbo (talk) 21:47, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The USPTO refers to it as "The Ohio State University." Vanleos (talk) 19:35, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

First, copyright, patents, and trademarks are completely different things. Second, you didn't answer the question: how does the article's current title "violate Wikipedia's policies on copyright?" What policy is being violated? And what specific part of that policy is being violated? ElKevbo (talk) 22:22, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. No indication anything has changed since this was discussed last January or any other time this has come up. ~~ Jessintime (talk) 16:23, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The Oppose. Nothing's changed since the last RM. O.N.R. ^(talk) 18:17, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per WP:THE (see section WP:THEUNI) and WP:TITLETM and no change since prior RM. See also: WP:OFFICIALNAMES. A Google News search quickly confirms The has not consistently taken hold in independent, reliable sources. --MYCETEAE 🍄‍🟫—talk 18:29, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per The O.N.R.. This RM violates my copyright. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 00:06, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support. References to the university using the article 'The' in its name can be found in its website and diplomas. The term Ohio State is much more associated with the sports team than the university itself. Sargento91 (talk) 14:09, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support Per MOS:IDENTITY, which overrides WP:THE based off of the fact that the University uses THE in its official name.--Jojhutton (talk) 22:38, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This is an institution, not a person or group of people. MOS:IDENTITY does not apply to institutions. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 04:31, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.