Talk:Maxim Naumov

Feedback from New Page Review process

I left the following feedback for the creator/future reviewers while reviewing this article: Passes WP:NSKATE=2. ——Serial ^# 16:40, 3 June 2020 (UTC).

Death?

Should we add a death date now or wait for specific confirmation of his death in particular. As the deaths are currently only presumed, I thought waiting was the proper move but some articles of others onboard have already added a death date. Mason7512 (talk) 16:36, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

I have not seen any official confirmation that he was on that plane. Bgsu98 (Talk) 16:38, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

This is another example of absolute irresponsibility. Maxim Naumov was not on that flight – https://www.wbur.org/news/2025/01/30/boston-russian-figure-skater-dc-plane-crash – but you were rushing to add a date of death to his profile like there was some prize involved. Shame on you. Bgsu98 (Talk) 20:05, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

??? Calm down dude ??? all I did was ask a question on a talk page. I was intentionally not fast to edit anything. I thought he was on the flight because of ambiguous language about the event in his article at the time and someone of the same name and occupation being on the flight. The personal attack in your reply is wholly unnecessary and irrelevant. Mason7512 (talk) 20:56, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

You may not have been, so I apologize for that, but this article had to be reverted numerous times this morning and then finally locked down – one of several – due to irresponsible reporting, while kids are literally still being fished out of the Potomac. My patience for bullshit right now is zero. Bgsu98 (Talk) 21:13, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

Requested move 30 January 2025

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: page moved over disambiguation. Arbitrarily0 ^(talk) 20:24, 6 February 2025 (UTC)

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• Maxim Naumov (figure skater) → Maxim Naumov
• Maxim Naumov → Maxim Naumov (disambiguation)
• Maksim Naumov → Maksim Naumov (football player)

– The figure skater seems to be the primary topic. Killuminator (talk) 19:59, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

• Support Maxim Naumov (figure skater) → Maxim Naumov per nomination and oppose Maxim Naumov → Maxim Naumov (disambiguation), but would support Maxim Naumov → deleted to make room for move. Also, oppose Maksim Naumov → Maksim Naumov (football player), but would support the use of standard parenthetical qualifier Maksim Naumov → Maksim Naumov (footballer). A hatnote atop the skater's entry pointing to the one-sentence stub for the footballer would suffice.
  If consensus decides that, rather than Maksim Naumov redirecting to Maxim Naumov, WP:SMALLDIFFERENCES is applicable to these two men and that the footballer can remain as simply Maksim Naumov, with hatnotes atop each man's entry pointing to the other, I would not oppose such an alternative option. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 23:47, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
• Agree with Roman Spinner. Maxim Naumov (figure skater) should be moved to primary, but a disambiguation page is unnecessary. Neutral to moving Maksim Naumov, but if moved, it should be moved to (footballer), which is the normal disambiguator. Natg 19 (talk) 01:25, 31 January 2025 (UTC)
• I like the way Snrub thinks. I agree with all of Roman Spinner's proposals. Bgsu98 (Talk) 01:31, 31 January 2025 (UTC)
• Support Maxim Naumov (figure skater) → Maxim Naumov, Maksim Naumov → Maksim Naumov (football player), the figure skater is clearly more notable and should be moved per WP:QUALIFIER and WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. If there is nobody else under the same name a disambiguation page is not needed, just a hatnote per WP:2DABS jolielover♥talk 09:47, 31 January 2025 (UTC)
  • Actually, since there is no other person under the name Maksim Naumov, a move to "(football player)" should not be needed, just a hatnote as mentioned below by Hansen. jolielover♥talk 14:33, 31 January 2025 (UTC)
• Support Maxim Naumov (figure skater) → Maxim Naumov (with the X) and Maxim Naumov → Maxim Naumov (disambiguation), But keep Maksim Naumov (with the KS) for the footballer. It also benefits put the {{About-distinguish}} template on both articles (X Naumov and KS Naumov). Hansen Sebastian (Talk) 11:18, 31 January 2025 (UTC)
• Support 1st, but nix the unnecessary disambiguation page. The two can be sufficiently differentiated with a hatnote. RachelTensions (talk) 19:49, 31 January 2025 (UTC)
• Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page moves. GiantSnowman 09:41, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
• Agree with RachelTensions - so have figure skater at Maxim Naumov, have the footballer at Maksim Naumov, and no need for a dab page. GiantSnowman 09:43, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
• Support 1st, Oppose 2nd and 3rd. The skater is the primary topic. Delete dabpage and add hatnotes to both articles. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:51, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
• Support 1st, Oppose 2nd and 3rd different spellings so hatnotes can suffice, but the figure skater is the primary topic for the spelling with x. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:13, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
• Support 1st – And the footballer cleary fails in WP:GNG and should be WP:PRODed. Svartner (talk) 02:02, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Quote from Instagram

Social media are not valid sources for Wikipedia. And personal greetings are not encyclopedic content. This quote must be removed. --Altenmann >talk 01:59, 7 July 2025 (UTC)

The fact that Naumov's parents died days after the competition where he won the pewter medal – by the way, linking "pewter medal" to pewter is about as useless as a screen door on a submarine – and the fact that that was their last public message makes it encyclopedic. If it were under normal circumstances, I'd probably agree with you, but these were not normal circumstances. They were well-covered in the press, and that Instagram post was reported in the press as well. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:11, 7 July 2025 (UTC)

OK, I accept the argument that these are special circumstances. However I disagree that linking pewter medal is useless. Not everybody is into American skating traditions. And the article pewter explains what pewter medal is. --Altenmann >talk 02:19, 7 July 2025 (UTC)

No, I agree that leaving pewter medal by itself is problematic. The problem is the Pewter article doesn't help clarify anything. What is needed is a short mention immediately afterward that this is a 4th place medal, or a footnote (ie. "At the U.S. Championships, pewter medals are awarded to the fourth-place finishers"). Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:27, 7 July 2025 (UTC)

Did you click the "pewter medal" link? The anchored text (with reference) actually says that it is for the 4th place. --Altenmann >talk 02:42, 7 July 2025 (UTC)

Sorry, it was originally just taking me to the top of the article. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:48, 7 July 2025 (UTC)

By the way, the "pewter" article says " Certain athletic contests, such as..." This generalized statement is not supported by the ref cited, which is about skating only. Are you aware of other competitions with pewter medals? If not, then probably it might be a good idea to retarget it to U.S. Figure Skating Championships#Pewter, also expanding this place with the explanatory information from this faq. --Altenmann >talk 02:59, 7 July 2025 (UTC)