Talk:Marty Norton/GA1

GA review

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Nominator: BeanieFan11 (talk · contribs) 00:03, 31 July 2025 (UTC)

Reviewer: Gonzo fan2007 (talk · contribs) 16:27, 31 July 2025 (UTC)

I'll do this one. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:27, 31 July 2025 (UTC)

Outside note: lead is a bit of a MOS:CRIMINAL violation. Otherwise looks good. PARAKANYAA (talk) 18:30, 31 July 2025 (UTC)

Any suggestions on how to better write the lead? His criminal "career" received a similar amount of coverage to his sports career. BeanieFan11 (talk) 18:58, 31 July 2025 (UTC)

"Fraudster", perhaps? That seems to be his most notable crime. The issue is not mentioning the crime in the lead, but convicted criminal is rather vague as that can be anything from murder to shoplifting. PARAKANYAA (talk) 19:44, 31 July 2025 (UTC)

Changed to "fraudster". BeanieFan11 (talk) 20:10, 31 July 2025 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable, as shown by a source spot-check. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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Comments

Lead

• The "c. 1901–1907 – October 8, 1977" is confusing with two dashes. Is there another way this is typically done?
  • I'm not sure how its usually done. Do you have any ideas? Maybe I can ask someone at the Teahouse or help desk.
• Is there another word you can use than "receiving" in "and receiving all-city honors in" since receive is already used earlier in the sentence?
  • Changed to "earned".
• then briefly attended Hamline University
  • Done.
• which he also left after a month.
  • Done.
• finishing as their leading scorer and the NFL leader in receiving touchdowns clarify he was the season leader, not the team career leader
  • Done.
• He was arrested and imprisoned numerous times over the next two decades in relation to this, starting in 1928
  • Done.
• then escaped again before-->then escaped once more before
  • Done.
• However, he was jailed again at the end of the year
  • Done.
• After another jail sentence, he returned to these activities by 1946 before a seven-year sentence in 1947.-->After another jail sentence, he returned to these activities around 1946 before receiving a seven-year sentence in 1947.
  • Done.
• After finishing his sentence, Norton later died in California. the way this is written, it makes it seem like these two events were close in time, yet they were 20+ years apart. Recommend rewriting to clarify, even saying something like "After serving his sentence, not much was reported on Norton until his death in 1977."
  • Done.

Early life

• No comments

High school career

• Recommend dropping "career" in the section header as high school sports isn't really a "career"
  • Done.
• Is "Bryant grade school" a proper noun? Thus, should "grade school" be capitalized?
  • Not sure if that was the official title. The newspaper reference discusses it in lowercase. Thoughts?
• won two important competitions maybe "notable" instead of "important"
  • Done.
• , a year when he led Central to the city and Twin Cities championships-->{{tq|. This was the same year that he led Central to the city and Twin Cities championships
  • Done.
• was considered a talented swimmer
  • Done.

College and professional career

• including the 151st artillery team, Ballentine Post, Hennepin-Lake, the St. Paul Kaysees and Waldron Globe Trotters.[24][25][26][27][28] consider using {{multiref}} here
  • Done.
• had a lack of Latin credits-->lacked Latin credits
  • Done.
• He was considered one of the top
  • Done.
• He was considered one of their
  • Done.
• considered the "probably the best"
  • Done.
• weighed only 160 pounds
  • Done.

Legal issues

• Norton earned up to $500 per game during his football career and up to $275 per game during his basketball career; however, in his last seasons, the value of his contracts began to dwindle, and he thus left sports to begin selling magazines, which resulted in many legal issues over the next years of his life. - recommend splitting into 2 sentences
  • Done.
• He became wanted in several counties of the state after many subscribers to his "magazines"-->He was wanted in several counties of the state after many subscribers to his "magazines"
  • Done.
• jail breaking-->jailbreaking
  • Done.
• He paid fines to several counties in December.[102] However, he was held in jail at Austin on another charge of forgery. recommend merging these two sentences
  • Done.
• using the mails to defraud "mail"
  • Done.
• from judge George C. Scott seems like unimportant information,. recommend deleting
  • Done.
• Norton had returned to selling fake magazine subscriptions to teachers in Iowa
  • Done.
• After serving his sentence, Norton later died on October 8, 1977 similar to the lead, the wording makes it seem like these events were close in time
  • Cut "after serving his sentence" to just say he died in 1977.

References

• All appear reliable for what is being cited, as almost all are historic newspaper clippings
• Formatting is consistent and appropriate
• Spot checks: 6, 9, 15, 18, 20, 23, 35, 39, 48, 59, 60, 63, 74, 75, 80, 83, 86, 92, 103, 107, 114

Wow, what a read, and what a life. Shame that there isn't more about his later life, but I trust you did your research. Maybe he finally went straight and stayed out of trouble? Nice work! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:20, 5 August 2025 (UTC)

• @Gonzo fan2007: Thanks for the review. I think I responded to everything. BeanieFan11 (talk) 20:35, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
  • @BeanieFan11: the only item I would follow-up on is the birth year formatting. I won't hold it up for the GA review, but I just want to make sure that it is done right. MOS:APPROXDATE may help as well. Nice work! Passed. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 21:13, 5 August 2025 (UTC)

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