Talk:Kingdom of Nri

Footnotes

The same source is referenced many, many times, with only the page number changing. See WP:FOOT, WP:CITE, and WP:CITE#Short_footnotes_with_alphabetized_full_citations for possible alternative methods that would be easier on the reader. This is in no way a criticism, but just a suggestion that there may be easier ways of doing the referencing throughout the article, that allow the reader to see which book it came from immediately. Many of the featured articles use similar styles of footnote formatting, but I did not feel it was proper to change so many footnotes/references without any kind of discussion, so instead, I left the tag, and posted this message. Ariel♥Gold 05:07, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Understood and thanks for reading the article :) Scott Free (talk) 05:43, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

I can go do some research, if you want help with this, I've really never had a reason to use this style of formatting, (sort of how one would use "ibid" when writing a paper") because nearly all the references I use in articles are from online news reports, and only rarely books. So I'm not familiar with this way of doing references. I'll need to dig through some featured articles, and see how they are done, before I feel comfortable changing anything. I considered just using the <ref name="name"> option, but that would remove all the page numbers, and those are actually the reference, so they need to stay. If you'd like me to work on it, just let me know, but I'll need a few hours to examine some of the featured articles, and learn how to do this kind of citation style. Ariel♥Gold 23:08, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Okay I studied up, and I think this way works. I've placed all the books in alphabetical order, in the "Sources" header, and under them are the footnotes, that specify the last name of the author to indicate which book it comes from, and the page number the reference relates to. What do you think? :) Ariel♥Gold 00:05, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Thnx a bunch. Now I just gotta find some pics. Scott Free (talk) 00:11, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Ack! Sorry I forgot to remove the tag, lol. ~*Bonks head on desk*~ Yeah, pictures would be good! Ariel♥Gold 00:22, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

pics

Just added a pic I found on the Igbo-Ukwu page. I'm not sure what the copyright status is, but until its removed i'll keep it up. I saw the sculpture elsewhere and it clearly portrays an ndi Nri or mbreechi priest (notice the facial scarification). HOLLA Scott Free (talk) 02:19, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Typo Cleanup

Typo: debateable==>debatable Join Typo Team - You can help! Aclayartist (talk) 15:55, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Kingdom of Nri/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Lampman (talk) 07:48, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

GA review (see here for criteria)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS):

   There were some instances of poor language. I gave the article a copy-edit, and I believe it is better now. The main problem is with the layout, however. The sections and paragraphs are generally far too short, which violates Wikipedia:Layout#Body sections and makes the article choppy to read.

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

   The biggest problem with the article is with the lower part, and the heavy reliance on Anunobi. This book is not from an academic press or an academic author. The text subsequently bears witness to this, in the sense that the language is unencyclopaedic and non-NPOV; it seems to be praising and extolling the culture rather than giving a neutral description. There ought to be reliable academic sources on the subject.

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

   Mostly , yes, though certain sections like Art and Economy could certainly be expanded.

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

   See 2b above.

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

   Though no requirement, the article would benefit enormously from a more detailed map, perhaps something like the one in Benin Empire.

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

   Particularly the issue with WP:RS is serious, and will be hard to fix. Still, I will put the article on hold and check back in a week to see what has been done.

I see that a substantial amount of work has been done on the article since I reviewed it, and I believe it now qualifies for GA status. Lampman (talk) 19:22, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Date

If the Eri (the first king) started the Kingdom of Nri in 948 then the article should change the current date (1043–1911) to 948—1911 then. Ukabia - talk 17:30, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

My wacky edit summaries

I'm having a little trouble with auto generated edit summaries which are added just as I hit save changes. What I added as readd incorrectly now reads readd:Pop culture and my original ce now reads ce link. Apologies for any confusion.(Littleolive oil (talk) 14:34, 27 April 2017 (UTC))

Discussion within the page

There seems to be a literal discussion in the middle of this page, which should be resolved:

... "from the Benin Empire's Oba (this is debatable however, because the word "obi" in most Igbo dialects literally means "heart" and may be a metaphorical reference to kingship, rather than a loanword from Yoruba or Edo) This is not debatable and to clarify this,"

78.42.244.65 (talk) 13:33, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

Why is this considered to be ok in AmE and not Nigerian English?

Nigerian English would seem most appropriate here? Iljhgtn (talk) 06:03, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

I definitely see your point; the reason is that the typical practice on Wikipedia is to leave articles in whatever dialect was first established for the article, even if it's basically arbitrary (MOS:RETAIN). What dialect an article is in can easily become a point of intense conflict and across the encyclopedia there's not really a fair way to settle those kinds of disputes, hence this practice. At the same time, I think you could make an argument here specifically that because the topic of this article relates closely to Nigeria, Nigerian English would be most appropriate (MOS:TIES); it just might be a little late for that at this point in many people's eyes. If you can get a strong consensus to emerge here that the dialect should be changed, even though it would be atypical you might be able to establish a basis for changing the dialect that would be broadly acceptable to people just because of the article's subject. I'm not really sure of how likely that is. 🍉◜⠢◞ↂ🄜𝚎sₒᶜa𝚛🅟ම𛱘‎🥑《 𔑪‎talk〗⇤ 12:23, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

GA concerns

I am concerned that this article no longer meets the good article criteria due to uncited statements, including some that have been marked with "citation needed" since July 2024. Is anyone interested in addressing this concern, or should this go to WP:GAR? Z1720 (talk) 02:59, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

GA Reassessment

Kingdom of Nri

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Result: Delisted. Tarlby ^{(t) (c)} 18:07, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

Uncited statements, some marked with "citation needed" since July 2024. Z1720 (talk) 18:20, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.