Talk:Gordon's School

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Marketing, not information

This 'article' transparently reads as a marketing brochure. It does not have the tone, content or neutrality of an encyclopaedia article. It uses jargon (e.g. 'period 6 activity') that has little meaning outside the closed community of the school or, possibly, the UK education community. It suffers from detail and prolixity not suitable for an encyclopaedia article.

I don't know how to do this, but someone should mark the article for a complete rewrite, so far removed is it from the usual brief, informative style of school article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.157.215.120 (talk) 05:51, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Six year on- and I concur. WP does have a rule about deleting unsourced WP:RS material. I am tempted .ClemRutter (talk) 11:03, 9 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Couldn't resist. Added two authoritative sources and will build up a little basic material about what they teach, and hope we can get a little help more help. I have changed the assessmentClemRutter (talk) 16:27, 9 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Notable Gordonians

I am not sure why the entry referring to Daniel Gonzales (spree killer) was removed from 'Notable Gordonians' on August 31st 2021– the entry was correctly referenced to a verifiable source. J.Vande (talk) 17:44, 21 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Amendments to page

I am trying to amend the Gordon's page to reflect the change in Chair of Governors; increase in charges and that it was originally Gordon Boys' School. Also trying to add in Notable Gordonians with references. My edits have been removed! All are based on fact and non-contentious. As the page now stands it is incorrect without some of the changes. Perhaps I might be permitted to carry out these changes? Lottiegordons (talk) 08:03, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You are being reverted, quite correctly, by two very experienced editors. You have been asked on several occasions to abide by the relevant instructions for users with a conflict of interest.

I would suggest that you start demonstrating a modicum of respect for Wikipedia guidelines, use the COI edit request process rather than editing the article directly, and stop treating this article as an extension of the school's social media.

The relevant policy can be found here: WP:COI. Axad12 (talk) 21:23, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

COI tag (August 2024)

One long-term editor with a declared CoI, other SPAs who may have CoIs. Discussion at WP:COIN. Current version of article may not be neutral. Tacyarg (talk) 22:14, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Notable Alumni

Would it be acceptable to include Ellie Boatman, English rugby union player in the Notable Alumni? She was a student at Gordon's from 2013-2015? I am able to produce redacted files to prove she was a student here. Lottiegordons (talk) 15:03, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, you need a reliable, independent, published source to add Ellie Boatman, which it doesn't sound as if you have. Tacyarg (talk) 15:15, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed edits by paid editor

This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest was declined. The reviewer would like to request the editor with a COI attempt to discuss with editors engaged in the subject-area first.

Hello,

I’m a paid editor working on behalf of Gordon’s School. I fully disclose my conflict of interest (COI) and have noted this on my user page.

The current article has been flagged for a promotional tone and has received criticism for lacking neutrality. I’ve prepared a proposed rewrite based entirely on independent, reliable sources, in line with Wikipedia’s guidelines on neutrality, notability, and verifiability.

You can view the draft here: User:Silver8irch/sandbox

Summary of key changes:

Rewrote the article to improve neutrality and remove promotional language
Replaced or updated unreliable sources with reliable, secondary citations
Added references where previously there were none
Removed excessive detail and advertising-style content
Improved the structure for readability (clearer headings and logical flow)

I’d appreciate any feedback or suggestions. I won’t make direct edits to the article without community support.

Thank you! Silver8irch (talk) 16:08, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Silver8irchI don't see the draft could you please send it again. Ilovefood123123 (talk) 12:54, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Ilovefood123123

I've just checked. It's definitely there.

I think there was something wrong with the link, but I've redone it in my message above and posted it again here.

Here's the link: User:Silver8irch/sandbox

Would you mind trying again?

Thank you!

Silver8irch Silver8irch (talk) 15:09, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not done for now: Please establish a consensus with editors engaged in the subject area before using the {{Edit COI}} template for this proposed change. GoldRomean (talk) 04:04, 4 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Linking to discussion at User talk:Lottiegordons#Notice of Conflict of interest noticeboard discussion. Tacyarg (talk) 19:11, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Tacyarg,

My COI statement is above this message.

It is also on my user page as per COI guidelines. Both statements ave been there since May 2025.

We are endevouring to correct the page, removing all marketing speak and concerning content, peroviding comprehensive ciations and bringing it in line with Wikipedia standards.

Tha draft of the new page is in my Sandbox

Here's the link: User:Silver8irch/sandbox

Please have a look and comment

Many thanks Silver8irch (talk) 19:19, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies for the typos!!! Silver8irch (talk) 19:20, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

What you need to do is not create a new draft, but to present specific changes here on the article's talk page for discussion. 10mmsocket (talk) 19:22, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Silver8irch. Did you read the discussion at the link? Tacyarg (talk) 19:47, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, thank you. Silver8irch (talk) 15:26, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed merge of Draft:Gordon's School into Gordon's School

Draft is intended to be a rewrite of existing article. Please discuss on the article talk page. Robert McClenon (talk) 02:34, 1 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose the proposed changes should be discussed individually here. We cannot and should not allow a paid editor to completely overwrite an existing article, it goes against everything we stand for. 10mmsocket (talk) 06:02, 1 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

oppose per above 🇪🇭 Easternsahara U T C 14:11, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]