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Dreadful article

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"In April 2022, Vince announced he planned to sell Ecotricity" - of which there had been no previous mention in the article. The grammar is quite awful in many places.

Agree. The article needs a thorough edit, which I do not have time to undertake.

Marchino61 (talk) 10:49, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Untidy

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Erm... what's with the talk about the Telegraph article in the 'Ecotricity' section?

Why not summarize what Ecotricity is and point to the existing page, perhaps add the Telegraph article to a "What the Hysterical Press say" section?

If none of the other contributors want to tidy this up - I can rewrite it - but I do work for him... & I'd prefer not have to try and be neutral ;-)

Paulecotricity (talk) 15:17, 28 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'd not really noticed it. Having now done so, I do wonder what the other article on the hack's desk looked like: "Squillion pound electric car lies unused as Evil Hippy Millionaire Owner squanders your money". This is a car. Cars are driven. This is a car for research. Research involves using it and seeing if it works. So what's the problem? I once worked for a chap who employed a team of students to drive brand new BMWs in figure-eights on an airfield all day (they were testing a new differential) - is that any better than building this test car and then using it as it's intended? Andy Dingley (talk) 10:08, 22 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hehe - that's about it Andy! Well I waited a while, then removed that section - Ecotricity is mentioned in the introductory paragraph anyway. Perhaps someone will be writing an entry for the 'Nemesis' & can include mentions in the press (like the Telegraph article)? --Paulecotricity (talk) 08:56, 28 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
original company reg form

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Varthdaderdeathstar (talk • contribs) 14:49, 31 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Divorce settlements.

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  • John Bingham (11 March 2015). "Delayed divorce battle: Ecotricity founder Dale Vince's New Age traveller ex-wife wins cash fight". Daily Telegraph.

This needs to go in, but I've already reverted it twice today. "ex-wife wins cash fight" is quite wrong. She may yet win some settlement (I hope she does, good luck to her), but this hasn't happened yet.

She has won the right to take the case to court. She has not won the case.

At the outset, I understand (IANAL) that this was the position she was already in, same as any other ex-partner. However an initial judgement had ruled that out. That judgement has now been reversed.

Whatever coverage we give to this (and it warrants coverage as both a BLP aspect and a novel legal aspect) then we should be accurate and reflect what has happened, not the "divorcees own everything forever" shock headlines that have been flying around today. Even the Telegraph (above) has a good and balanced article, spoiled by the misleading headline. Andy Dingley (talk) 21:19, 11 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Actual origin of company

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in 1995 he with his then partner Karen Lane joined Martin Alder in founding The Renewable Energy Company. It was Alder who had the experience and background in the UK electricity industry and whose idea it was to create a specialist supplier of renewable energy. It was Alder who chose the name of the Renewable Energy Company later to be re-branded by Vince as Ecotricity. The company was very successful from the beginning Alder using his network of contacts in renewable generation to secure contracts for electricity and sales. In 1999/2000 Vince contrived to seize control of the company for himself. He subsequently made sure that no acknowledgement was given to Alder's or Lane's role in the foundation of company.Varthdaderdeathstar (talk) 14:40, 31 October 2015 (UTC)Cite error: A <ref> tag is missing the closing </ref> (see the help page).</ref> See File BlREX+GJ0205-870856 4-12723584.pdf[reply]

Citation needed.
Marchino61 (talk) 10:50, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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OBE

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Page 13 here https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/57155/supplement/1 verifies his OBE. I have no idea how to do citations. Do remove this section if/when you can do it properly. Ta

Incorporating Guido Fawkes content into Politics section

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Hello! I'm an employee at Ecotricity, part of the Green Britain Foundation, both of which are owned by Dale Vince. I wanted to address a recent edit to the article, which adds a Dispute with GuidoFawkes section about Mr. Vince suing the politics blog Guido Fawkes for libel. While that is true, it doesn't strike me as something that should have its own section. Perhaps it should be incorporated into the final paragraph of the existing Politics section. A suggestion:

On Times Radio, in the immediate aftermath of the 2023 Hamas-led attack on Israel, Vince stated that "one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter" when asked about Hamas. In the same interview, he said that he did not support Hamas's attack. He further agreed that Hamas is a terrorist organization and that Israel has a right to defend itself.[1][2] Angela Rayner said Vince's "freedom fighter" remark was "appalling".[1] In July 2024, Vince sued ownership of the political blog Guido Fawkes for libel, claiming that the site implied he supported Hamas by circulating a clip of the Times Radio interview that featured only the "freedom fighter" remark with no additional context.[2]

References

  1. ^ a b Daly, Patrick (2024-03-14). "Labour donor Dale Vince's comments about Hamas were appalling, says Rayner". The Independent. Retrieved 2024-10-09.
  2. ^ a b Waterson, Jim (July 2, 2024). "Dale Vince sues Guido Fawkes owner for libel over Hamas claims". The Guardian. Retrieved January 31, 2025.

The Dispute with GuidoFawkes section also claims that I removed content from this Wikipedia article about the libel suit in August of 2024. That's not correct. I actually added content about the suit and the blog distorting Mr. Vince's comments. Another editor reverted my changes. They were completely right to do so, by the way, and I apologise for my edits. At the time, I wasn't familiar with Wikipedia's conflict-of-interest editing guidelines. I'm now aware that I'm not supposed to directly edit this article, which is why I'm on the Talk page suggesting changes instead.

Anyway, I'll step aside and let independent editors weigh in on this matter. If I can offer any clarification on this edit request or my previous editing, please let me know. Verelrodrigues (talk) 16:09, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to tag in User:SimplyLouis27, who has made an edit to the Guido Fawkes dispute section, and User:Vanderwaalforces, who had (rightfully) removed my content about the Times Radio interview controversy last summer, to see if either of them would like to review my request above. Verelrodrigues (talk) 17:23, 10 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I removed it as it added no encyclopaedic value, and frankly didn’t make sense. SimplyLouis27 (talk) 18:29, 10 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
User:SimplyLouis27: Yes, I saw that you got rid of the passage about me editing the article and added a "citation needed" tag to the other claim. Really appreciate that; I think it improves upon what was previously there. What I'm asking about is my edit request above, in which I suggest incorporating some of the GuidoFawkes section content into the existing Politics one.
No pressure to field the request! Just asking because you demonstrated an interest in the content I'm looking to reorganise. Verelrodrigues (talk) 18:27, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
 Done, clearly an improvement as the previous was a completely unsourced BLP statement. Thank you for working through edit requests. Rusalkii (talk) 20:24, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for reviewing, User:Rusalkii! Verelrodrigues (talk) 19:16, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Improving the Early life and career section

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Hello again! I'd like to submit a draft that strengthens and builds upon the Early life and career section. What's already there is mostly solid; I just noticed that there are a few information gaps. I'm going to use the "diff" function below to illustrate all my suggested changes, but I'll briefly summarize first. My draft:

  • Separates Early life into its own section and rewrites a pair of sentences that were plagiarized from the cited source
  • Adds information about several career developments that received extensive media coverage (Nemesis, launch of Devil's Kitchen, publication of Vince's first book, etc.)
  • Clarifies that Vince halted previously planned sale of Ecotricity

You can review all my suggested changes line-by-line by clicking this dropdown:

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Vince was born in [[Great Yarmouth]], [[Norfolk]], the second of three children to parents who ran a Fenland haulage firm. Leaving school at 15, he spent time as a [[New Age travellers|New Age traveller]]. When [[RAF Molesworth]] was chosen to become a base for the US Air Force's mobile nuclear armed Ground Launched Cruise Missile in 1980, Vince occupied the nuclear base in protest. And he was one of the new-age travellers at the [[Battle of the Beanfield]] at [[Stonehenge]] in the mid-1980s. In 1991, he saw his first windfarm ("I thought, either I can carry on by myself with the windmill on my van, or I can get into the big stuff") and, in 1995, he founded the Renewable Energy Company. In 1996, he launched his first [[wind turbine]] supplying "green electricity". In October 2020, ''[[The Guardian]]'' reported that he plans to create [[Synthetic diamond|artificial diamonds]] by [[Chemical vapor deposition#Diamond|chemical vapor deposition]] using "[[carbon dioxide]] captured directly from the atmosphere to form the diamonds – which are chemically identical to diamonds mined from the earth – using wind and solar electricity, with water collected from rainfall." In April 2022, Vince announced he planned to sell Ecotricity and go into politics. He said part of the reason was that a new owner "can achieve even more, faster. We've got a massive pipeline of projects that need to be built requiring £2 billion of investment." As well as developing his interest in politics, he would focus on renewable projects such as [[tidal lagoon]]s and [[geothermal energy]].
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Vince was born in [[Great Yarmouth]], [[Norfolk]], the second of three children to parents who ran a Fenland haulage firm. Leaving school at 15, he spent time as a [[New Age travellers|New Age traveller]]. In 1980, Vince participated in the occupation of [[RAF Molesworth]] after it was chosen as a base for the US Air Force's mobile nuclear armed Ground Launched Cruise Missile. He was also one of the new age travellers present at the [[Battle of the Beanfield]] at [[Stonehenge]] in 1985. In 1991, Vince saw his first windfarm ("I thought, either I can carry on by myself with the windmill on my van, or I can get into the big stuff") and, in 1995, he founded the Renewable Energy Company, which eventually changed its name to Ecotricity. In 1996, he launched his first [[wind turbine]] supplying "green electricity". The following year, he attended the conference in Kyoto, Japan that produced the [[Kyoto Protocol]]. In November 2010, Vince debuted [[Nemesis (car)|Nemesis]], which has been described by ''The Guardian'' and ''Telegraph'' as "Britain's first green supercar." Nemesis is a modified [[Lotus Exige]] owned and developed by Vince. The car broke the UK land speed record for electric vehicles in September 2012, averaging 151.6mph (244km/h) while traveling along a mile-long course. In 2012, Vince founded the Green Britain Foundation, a charitable organization dedicated to the protection of the natural environment and the promotion of physical recreation. That same year, Vince helped establish the Electric Superhighway, a network of electric vehicle charging stations positioned along Britain's motorways. He sold the network to [[Gridserve]] in 2021. In 2019, Vince founded Devil's Kitchen, a company that provides vegan meals to schools and colleges. As of 2024, the company was serving approximately one in four British primary schools. He published his first book, ''Manifesto'', in 2020. ''Manifesto'' went on to become a ''[[The Sunday Times|Sunday Times]]'' bestseller in April 2023. In October 2020, ''[[The Guardian]]'' reported that Vince had plans to create [[Synthetic diamond|artificial diamonds]] by [[Chemical vapor deposition#Diamond|chemical vapor deposition]] using "[[carbon dioxide]] captured directly from the atmosphere to form the diamonds – which are chemically identical to diamonds mined from the earth – using wind and solar electricity, with water collected from rainfall." This plan was realized as a company called SkyDiamond, which produced its first 15 diamonds in December 2021 and released a full jewelry line in October 2022. In April 2022, Vince announced he planned to sell Ecotricity and go into politics. He said part of the reason was that a new owner "can achieve even more, faster. We've got a massive pipeline of projects that need to be built requiring £2 billion of investment." As well as developing his interest in politics, he would focus on renewable projects such as [[tidal lagoon]]s and [[geothermal energy]]. In November of the same year, he said that he had halted plans to sell the company. In June 2023, Vince announced plans to implement an "eco-curriculum" across 12,000 UK schools by 2025 through his Ministry of Eco Education. The curriculum, which seeks to teach students about the natural world and the [[climate crisis]], had previously been tested in a pilot program featuring 25 schools in 2022. In July 2023, Vince announced the founding of Ecojet, an airline featuring planes powered by hydrogen-derived electricity. Ecojet's first flights are scheduled to take place in 2025.

References

  1. ^ a b c Andrew Davidson (3 August 2009). 1000 CEOs. Dorling Kindersley Limited. pp. 383–. ISBN 978-1-4053-3467-9.
  2. ^ Grover, Sami (5 September 2013). "How an 'Off-Grid' Hippie Built a Wind Energy Empire". Treehugger. Retrieved 28 February 2024.
  3. ^ a b Bassett, Kate (18 June 2009). "Dale Vince: 'The police should be better than us'". Real Business. Archived from the original on 2020-09-27.
  4. ^ a b Arnott, Sarah (31 March 2011). "Dale Vince: Tilting at windmills: how to turn the UK green". The Independent. Retrieved 28 February 2024.
  5. ^ a b Rankin, Jennifer (10 February 2015). "Ecotricity gives £250,000 to Labour amid 'existential threat' from Tories". The Guardian. Retrieved 13 March 2015.
  6. ^ Ambrose, Jillian (30 October 2020). "Ecotricity founder to grow diamonds 'made entirely from the sky'". The Guardian. Retrieved 31 October 2020.
  7. ^ a b Walsh, Dominic; Humphries, Will (1 April 2022). "Ecotricity founder Dale Vince to sell company and go into politics". The Times. London. Archived from the original on 2022-04-01. Retrieved 6 June 2022.
  8. ^ a b Hughes, Janet (1 April 2022). "Dale Vince and that Ecotricity shock that wasn't an April Fool". Gloucestershire Live. Reach. Retrieved 6 June 2022.
  9. ^ Grover, Sami (5 September 2013). "How an 'Off-Grid' Hippie Built a Wind Energy Empire". Treehugger. Retrieved 28 February 2024.
  10. ^ D'Urso, Joey (July 21, 2023). "How League Two owners made their money: Hollywood, cryptocurrency and the Class of '92". The Athletic. Retrieved January 31, 2025. [Vince] founded the Renewable Energy Company in 1995 with a single wind turbine, which rapidly expanded and has since changed its name to Ecotricity.
  11. ^ Butcher, Mike (September 14, 2013). "He's Electric — Will A Revolutionary Black Box Turn Dale Vince Into Europe's Elon Musk?". TechCrunch. Retrieved January 31, 2025.
  12. ^ a b Vidal, John (November 5, 2010). "'Smashing the Noddy stereotype' – UK's first green supercar takes to the roads". The Guardian. Retrieved January 31, 2025.
  13. ^ Norton, Jim (December 18, 2024). "The vegan wind-farm owner who wants to shape Starmer's politics". The Telegraph. Retrieved January 31, 2025.
  14. ^ "'Nemesis' electric car breaks UK land-speed record". BBC. September 27, 2012. Retrieved January 31, 2025.
  15. ^ "Green Britain Foundation". charitycommission.gov.uk. January 31, 2025. Retrieved January 31, 2025.
  16. ^ "Green Britain Foundation Financial Statements". charitycommission.gov.uk. April 30, 2022. Retrieved January 31, 2025.
  17. ^ Loveridge, Ashley (June 9, 2021). "Ecotricity chief Dale Vince sells motorway EV charging network to Gridserve". Stroud Times. Retrieved January 31, 2025.
  18. ^ Watson, Sarah Phaedre (March 11, 2019). "Dale Vince on why he's launching vegan food in schools, and what he's up to next". Stroud News & Journal. Retrieved January 31, 2025.
  19. ^ Wheeler, Brian (September 23, 2024). "Scrap law making schools serve meat, urges Labour donor". Stroud News & Journal. Retrieved January 31, 2025.
  20. ^ Aitkenhead, Decca (March 3, 2024). "Dale Vince: 'Money hasn't changed me. It's changed what I can do'". The Times. Retrieved February 25, 2025.
  21. ^ "The Sunday Times Bestsellers, General Paperbacks". The Sunday Times. April 2, 2023. p. 30.
  22. ^ Ambrose, Jillian (30 October 2020). "Ecotricity founder to grow diamonds 'made entirely from the sky'". The Guardian. Retrieved 31 October 2020.
  23. ^ Liu, Ming (January 22, 2023). "Diamonds Are in the Air". New York Times. Retrieved February 3, 2025.
  24. ^ Wood, David (November 1, 2022). "Dale Vince halts Ecotricity sale". Gloucester Punchline. Retrieved February 3, 2025.
  25. ^ Diver, Tony; Gill, Oliver (June 3, 2023). "Labour donor and Just Stop Oil backer plots 'eco-curriculum' across 12,000 schools". The Telegraph. Retrieved February 3, 2025.
  26. ^ Lawson, Alex (July 16, 2023). "Green energy tycoon to launch UK's first electric airline". The Guardian. Retrieved February 3, 2025.
  27. ^ Perry, Dominic. "Ecojet delays launch until 2025 but insists it is building for the long term". Flight Global. Retrieved February 3, 2025.

If my draft were added to the article as-is, it would look like this:

Early life and Career sections
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Verelrodrigues (talk • contribs) 18:08, 31 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
 Go ahead: I have reviewed these proposed changes and suggest that you go ahead and make the proposed changes to the page. GoldRomean (talk) 02:10, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Early life

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Vince was born in Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, the second of three children to parents who ran a Fenland haulage firm. Leaving school at 15, he spent time as a New Age traveller.[1][2]

In 1980, Vince participated in the occupation of RAF Molesworth after it was chosen as a base for the US Air Force's mobile nuclear armed Ground Launched Cruise Missile. He was also one of the new age travellers present at the Battle of the Beanfield at Stonehenge in 1985.[3]

Career

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In 1991, Vince saw his first windfarm ("I thought, either I can carry on by myself with the windmill on my van, or I can get into the big stuff")[4] and, in 1995, he founded the Renewable Energy Company, which eventually changed its name to Ecotricity.[5] In 1996, he launched his first wind turbine supplying "green electricity".[6] The following year, he attended the conference in Kyoto, Japan that produced the Kyoto Protocol.[7]

In November 2010, Vince debuted Nemesis, which has been described by The Guardian and Telegraph as "Britain's first green supercar."[8][9] Nemesis is a modified Lotus Exige owned and developed by Vince.[8] The car broke the UK land speed record for electric vehicles in September 2012, averaging 151.6mph (244km/h) while traveling along a mile-long course.[10]

In 2012, Vince founded the Green Britain Foundation, a charitable organization dedicated to the protection of the natural environment and the promotion of physical recreation.[11][12] That same year, Vince helped establish the Electric Superhighway, a network of electric vehicle charging stations positioned along Britain's motorways. He sold the network to Gridserve in 2021.[13]

In 2019, Vince founded Devil's Kitchen, a company that provides vegan meals to schools and colleges.[14] As of 2024, the company was serving approximately one in four British primary schools.[15] He published his first book, Manifesto, in 2020.[16] Manifesto went on to become a Sunday Times bestseller in April 2023.[17]

In October 2020, The Guardian reported that Vince had plans to create artificial diamonds by chemical vapor deposition using "carbon dioxide captured directly from the atmosphere to form the diamonds – which are chemically identical to diamonds mined from the earth – using wind and solar electricity, with water collected from rainfall."[18] This plan was realized as a company called SkyDiamond, which produced its first 15 diamonds in December 2021 and released a full jewelry line in October 2022.[19]

In April 2022, Vince announced he planned to sell Ecotricity and go into politics. He said part of the reason was that a new owner "can achieve even more, faster. We've got a massive pipeline of projects that need to be built requiring £2 billion of investment." As well as developing his interest in politics, he would focus on renewable projects such as tidal lagoons and geothermal energy.[20][21] In November of the same year, he said that he had halted plans to sell the company.[22]

In June 2023, Vince announced plans to implement an "eco-curriculum" across 12,000 UK schools by 2025 through his Ministry of Eco Education. The curriculum, which seeks to teach students about the natural world and the climate crisis, had previously been tested in a pilot program featuring 25 schools in 2022.[23] In July 2023, Vince announced the founding of Ecojet, an airline featuring planes powered by hydrogen-derived electricity.[24] Ecojet's first flights are scheduled to take place in 2025.[25]

References

  1. ^ Andrew Davidson (3 August 2009). 1000 CEOs. Dorling Kindersley Limited. pp. 383–. ISBN 978-1-4053-3467-9.
  2. ^ Grover, Sami (5 September 2013). "How an 'Off-Grid' Hippie Built a Wind Energy Empire". Treehugger. Retrieved 28 February 2024.
  3. ^ Bassett, Kate (18 June 2009). "Dale Vince: 'The police should be better than us'". Real Business. Archived from the original on 2020-09-27.
  4. ^ Arnott, Sarah (31 March 2011). "Dale Vince: Tilting at windmills: how to turn the UK green". The Independent. Retrieved 28 February 2024.
  5. ^ D'Urso, Joey (July 21, 2023). "How League Two owners made their money: Hollywood, cryptocurrency and the Class of '92". The Athletic. Retrieved January 31, 2025. [Vince] founded the Renewable Energy Company in 1995 with a single wind turbine, which rapidly expanded and has since changed its name to Ecotricity.
  6. ^ Rankin, Jennifer (10 February 2015). "Ecotricity gives £250,000 to Labour amid 'existential threat' from Tories". The Guardian. Retrieved 13 March 2015.
  7. ^ Butcher, Mike (September 14, 2013). "He's Electric — Will A Revolutionary Black Box Turn Dale Vince Into Europe's Elon Musk?". TechCrunch. Retrieved January 31, 2025.
  8. ^ a b Vidal, John (November 5, 2010). "'Smashing the Noddy stereotype' – UK's first green supercar takes to the roads". The Guardian. Retrieved January 31, 2025.
  9. ^ Norton, Jim (December 18, 2024). "The vegan wind-farm owner who wants to shape Starmer's politics". The Telegraph. Retrieved January 31, 2025.
  10. ^ "'Nemesis' electric car breaks UK land-speed record". BBC. September 27, 2012. Retrieved January 31, 2025.
  11. ^ "Green Britain Foundation". charitycommission.gov.uk. January 31, 2025. Retrieved January 31, 2025.
  12. ^ "Green Britain Foundation Financial Statements". charitycommission.gov.uk. April 30, 2022. Retrieved January 31, 2025.
  13. ^ Loveridge, Ashley (June 9, 2021). "Ecotricity chief Dale Vince sells motorway EV charging network to Gridserve". Stroud Times. Retrieved January 31, 2025.
  14. ^ Watson, Sarah Phaedre (March 11, 2019). "Dale Vince on why he's launching vegan food in schools, and what he's up to next". Stroud News & Journal. Retrieved January 31, 2025.
  15. ^ Wheeler, Brian (September 23, 2024). "Scrap law making schools serve meat, urges Labour donor". Stroud News & Journal. Retrieved January 31, 2025.
  16. ^ Aitkenhead, Decca (March 3, 2024). "Dale Vince: 'Money hasn't changed me. It's changed what I can do'". The Times. Retrieved February 25, 2025.
  17. ^ "The Sunday Times Bestsellers, General Paperbacks". The Sunday Times. April 2, 2023. p. 30.
  18. ^ Ambrose, Jillian (30 October 2020). "Ecotricity founder to grow diamonds 'made entirely from the sky'". The Guardian. Retrieved 31 October 2020.
  19. ^ Liu, Ming (January 22, 2023). "Diamonds Are in the Air". New York Times. Retrieved February 3, 2025.
  20. ^ Walsh, Dominic; Humphries, Will (1 April 2022). "Ecotricity founder Dale Vince to sell company and go into politics". The Times. London. Archived from the original on 2022-04-01. Retrieved 6 June 2022.
  21. ^ Hughes, Janet (1 April 2022). "Dale Vince and that Ecotricity shock that wasn't an April Fool". Gloucestershire Live. Reach. Retrieved 6 June 2022.
  22. ^ Wood, David (November 1, 2022). "Dale Vince halts Ecotricity sale". Gloucester Punchline. Retrieved February 3, 2025.
  23. ^ Diver, Tony; Gill, Oliver (June 3, 2023). "Labour donor and Just Stop Oil backer plots 'eco-curriculum' across 12,000 schools". The Telegraph. Retrieved February 3, 2025.
  24. ^ Lawson, Alex (July 16, 2023). "Green energy tycoon to launch UK's first electric airline". The Guardian. Retrieved February 3, 2025.
  25. ^ Perry, Dominic. "Ecojet delays launch until 2025 but insists it is building for the long term". Flight Global. Retrieved February 3, 2025.

I'll now step aside and let independent editors review. I know that might take some time because I'm proposing quite a few content additions. If I can make the process easier in any way, please let me know! Thanks! Verelrodrigues (talk) 18:08, 31 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reaching out to User:Rusalkii because they reviewed my previous request. No obligation on their part, particularly since this is a more extensive request, but I would appreciate the help. Verelrodrigues (talk) 14:50, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Adding further context to Politics section

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Hello! While editors are still considering my extensive request above, I thought it might be wise to propose a more modest one to the Politics section. Over the past year, there have been a few notable developments in the Times Radio interview controversy (publications retracting claims, lawsuits settling, etc.) that I believe are worth including because 1.) they have received significant media coverage and 2.) their inclusion would provide a fuller picture of the event and its consequences. I'll once again use the "diff" function to illustrate the edits I'm proposing:

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Vince has made donations to both the [[Labour Party (UK)|Labour Party]] and the [[Green Party of England and Wales|Green Party]]. Prior to the [[2015 United Kingdom general election|2015 UK general election]], he was one of several 'celebrities' who endorsed the parliamentary candidacy of the [[Green Party of England and Wales|Green Party]]'s [[Caroline Lucas]]. He endorsed the Labour Party in the [[2019 United Kingdom general election|2019 general election]]. He has made donations to various [[Labour Party (UK)|Labour Party]] MPs, as well as environmental protest groups, such as [[Just Stop Oil]], [[Extinction Rebellion]], [[Greenpeace]] and [[Sea Shepherd Conservation Society]]. Forest Green raised the Palestinian flag during a match in April 2022 "in solidarity with the Palestinian people". Vince said "Palestine has been under siege by Israel - by air land and sea, for decades. The US allows this, pumps billions into Israel to support its economy and military and uses its veto to block any meaningful action by the UN". He said the West's position in relation to Palestine "stands in stark contradiction to 'our' claims to moral superiority, civilization and democratic values". Vince has been described as "anti-Israel" and "anti-Zionist" by ''[[The Jerusalem Post]]'', which wrote that he was using the club "as a means to promote his anti-Israel agenda". On [[Times Radio]], in the immediate aftermath of the [[2023 Hamas-led attack on Israel]], Vince stated that "one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter" when asked about Hamas. [[Angela Rayner]] said Vince's remark was "appalling". Vince said his remark was taken from a doctored video clip and that, in the same interview, he had agreed that Hamas were terrorists and Israel had a right to defend itself. In July 2024, Vince sued ownership of the political blog [[Guido Fawkes]] for libel, claiming that the site implied he supported Hamas by circulating a clip of the Times Radio interview that featured only the "freedom fighter" remark with no additional context.
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Vince has made donations to both the [[Labour Party (UK)|Labour Party]] and the [[Green Party of England and Wales|Green Party]]. Prior to the [[2015 United Kingdom general election|2015 UK general election]], he was one of several 'celebrities' who endorsed the parliamentary candidacy of the [[Green Party of England and Wales|Green Party]]'s [[Caroline Lucas]]. He endorsed the Labour Party in the [[2019 United Kingdom general election|2019 general election]]. He has made donations to various [[Labour Party (UK)|Labour Party]] MPs, as well as environmental protest groups, such as [[Just Stop Oil]], [[Extinction Rebellion]], [[Greenpeace]] and [[Sea Shepherd Conservation Society]]. Forest Green raised the Palestinian flag during a match in April 2022 "in solidarity with the Palestinian people". Vince said "Palestine has been under siege by Israel - by air land and sea, for decades. The US allows this, pumps billions into Israel to support its economy and military and uses its veto to block any meaningful action by the UN". He said the West's position in relation to Palestine "stands in stark contradiction to 'our' claims to moral superiority, civilization and democratic values". Vince has been described as "anti-Israel" and "anti-Zionist" by ''[[The Jerusalem Post]]'', which wrote that he was using the club "as a means to promote his anti-Israel agenda". On [[Times Radio]], in the immediate aftermath of the [[2023 Hamas-led attack on Israel]], Vince stated that "one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter" when asked about Hamas. [[Angela Rayner]] said Vince's remark was "appalling". Vince said his remark was taken from a doctored video clip and that, in the same interview, he had agreed that Hamas were terrorists and Israel had a right to defend itself. In July 2024, Vince sued ownership of the political blog [[Guido Fawkes]] for libel, claiming that the site implied he supported Hamas by circulating a clip of the Times Radio interview that featured only the "freedom fighter" remark with no additional context. The [[Daily Mail]], [[GB News]], and Tory MP Michael Fabricant apologised to Vince for advancing similar mischaracterisations of his views. The Daily Mail and GB News also paid Vince legal damages. In February 2025, Paul Staines, the founding editor of Guido Fawkes, agreed to pay £9,995 in damages in order to settle the libel suit against him. Vince has expressed his intention to donate the damages awarded in these suits to Palestinian charities.

References

  1. ^ a b Rankin, Jennifer (10 February 2015). "Ecotricity gives £250,000 to Labour amid 'existential threat' from Tories". The Guardian. Retrieved 13 March 2015.
  2. ^ Elgot, Jessica (24 April 2015). "Celebrities sign statement of support for Caroline Lucas – but not the Greens". The Guardian. London. Retrieved 22 July 2015.
  3. ^ Labour: By The Many [@LabourByTheMany] (6 December 2019). "The South West is rich in solar, wind, marine & geothermal energy. It also has the poorest regions in the UK! Here's @DaleVince owner of @ecotricity on why @UKLabour has his vote to tackle the climate crisis #GreenIndustrialRevolution #ByTheMany" (Tweet) – via Twitter.
  4. ^ Coates, Sam. "Westminster Accounts: Labour and Starmer have accepted thousands from major Just Stop Oil donor". Sky News. Retrieved 11 January 2023.
  5. ^ Spungin, Tal (26 April 2022). "Who is Dale Vince, the anti-Zionist owner of the 'world's greenest football club'?". The Jerusalem Post. Retrieved 2024-10-09.
  6. ^ Daly, Patrick (2024-03-14). "Labour donor Dale Vince's comments about Hamas were appalling, says Rayner". The Independent. Retrieved 2024-10-09.
  7. ^ a b c d Waterson, Jim (July 2, 2024). "Dale Vince sues Guido Fawkes owner for libel over Hamas claims". The Guardian. Retrieved March 7, 2025.
  8. ^ Elgot, Jessica (24 April 2015). "Celebrities sign statement of support for Caroline Lucas – but not the Greens". The Guardian. London. Retrieved 22 July 2015.
  9. ^ Labour: By The Many [@LabourByTheMany] (6 December 2019). "The South West is rich in solar, wind, marine & geothermal energy. It also has the poorest regions in the UK! Here's @DaleVince owner of @ecotricity on why @UKLabour has his vote to tackle the climate crisis #GreenIndustrialRevolution #ByTheMany" (Tweet) – via Twitter.
  10. ^ Coates, Sam. "Westminster Accounts: Labour and Starmer have accepted thousands from major Just Stop Oil donor". Sky News. Retrieved 11 January 2023.
  11. ^ Spungin, Tal (26 April 2022). "Who is Dale Vince, the anti-Zionist owner of the 'world's greenest football club'?". The Jerusalem Post. Retrieved 2024-10-09.
  12. ^ Daly, Patrick (2024-03-14). "Labour donor Dale Vince's comments about Hamas were appalling, says Rayner". The Independent. Retrieved 2024-10-09.
  13. ^ a b Parke, Callum (February 24, 2025). "Daily Mail publisher to pay £40k to Dale Vince over false claim he supports Hamas". The Independent. Retrieved March 7, 2025.
  14. ^ "Lichfield MP apologises to businessman after social media post". LichfieldLive. April 5, 2024. Retrieved April 2, 2025.
  15. ^ Quinn, Ben (February 26, 2025). "Labour donor Dale Vince claims libel victory over false pro-Hamas claim". The Guardian. Retrieved March 7, 2025.
  16. ^ Ponsford, Dominic (March 31, 2025). "Guido Fawkes owner Paul Staines pays £75,000 libel case costs to Dale Vince". PressGazette. Retrieved April 10, 2025.

Here is what the last two paragraphs of the section would look like if my edits were made:

Politics additions

On Times Radio, in the immediate aftermath of the 2023 Hamas-led attack on Israel, Vince stated that "one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter" when asked about Hamas. Angela Rayner said Vince's remark was "appalling". Vince said his remark was taken from a doctored video clip and that, in the same interview, he had agreed that Hamas were terrorists and Israel had a right to defend itself.[1]

In July 2024, Vince sued ownership of the political blog Guido Fawkes for libel, claiming that the site implied he supported Hamas by circulating a clip of the Times Radio interview that featured only the "freedom fighter" remark with no additional context.[2] The Daily Mail,[3] GB News,[2] and Tory MP Michael Fabricant[4] apologised to Vince for advancing similar mischaracterisations of his views. The Daily Mail and GB News also paid Vince legal damages.[2] In February 2025, Paul Staines, the founding editor of Guido Fawkes, agreed to pay £9,995 in damages in order to settle the libel suit against him.[5] Vince has expressed his intention to donate the damages awarded in these suits to Palestinian charities.[6][3]

References

  1. ^ Daly, Patrick (2024-03-14). "Labour donor Dale Vince's comments about Hamas were appalling, says Rayner". The Independent. Retrieved 2024-10-09.
  2. ^ a b c Waterson, Jim (July 2, 2024). "Dale Vince sues Guido Fawkes owner for libel over Hamas claims". The Guardian. Retrieved March 7, 2025.
  3. ^ a b Parke, Callum (February 24, 2025). "Daily Mail publisher to pay £40k to Dale Vince over false claim he supports Hamas". The Independent. Retrieved March 7, 2025.
  4. ^ "Lichfield MP apologises to businessman after social media post". LichfieldLive. April 5, 2024. Retrieved April 2, 2025.
  5. ^ Quinn, Ben (February 26, 2025). "Labour donor Dale Vince claims libel victory over false pro-Hamas claim". The Guardian. Retrieved March 7, 2025.
  6. ^ Ponsford, Dominic (March 31, 2025). "Guido Fawkes owner Paul Staines pays £75,000 libel case costs to Dale Vince". PressGazette. Retrieved April 10, 2025.

As always, I'm here to answer any questions independent editors may have as they review. Thanks! Verelrodrigues (talk) 17:04, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! I'm a colleague of Verel's, filling in for him while he's on holiday. I've added myself to the COI template at the top of this Talk page. I just wanted to let the community here know that I may be responding to feedback on either of his active edit requests. Pedalpowered (talk) 09:19, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Picking up where my colleague left off above, I'm going to tag User:OatPowered because they have regularly contributed to this article over the years. OatPowered, if you have any time to handle this request and/or the one above it, I would really appreciate the help. Verelrodrigues (talk) 15:54, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
 Go ahead: I have reviewed these proposed changes and suggest that you go ahead and make the proposed changes to the page. GoldRomean (talk) 02:11, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks so much for reviewing, User:GoldRomean! I've implemented both this edit request and the one above. Verelrodrigues (talk) 16:16, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Replacing infobox photo

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Hello again! Thanks for editors' help with the requests above. As a break from these more complicated requests, I am back to put forward a very simple one: would it be possible to replace the photo in the article's infobox? It's quite old and not the best quality. I reached out to a photographer we've worked with, and they have released a recent Dale Vince headshot on Wikimedia Commons. Here's a link to the photo.

Thank you in advance to whoever handles this request. Verelrodrigues (talk) 10:37, 5 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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