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Newton Thomas Sigel

Newton Thomas Sigel is reportedly or is doing the cinematography for Avengers Doomsday. 2601:647:4400:4AF1:D3D0:9202:E101:30E6 (talk) 18:50, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That information traces to unreliable social media accounts that are not verifiable, so it cannot be included at this time. Trailblazer101 (talk) 18:54, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Trailblazer101: A good ol' Valnet source cites "several reports" about this cinematographer. Good to add in? Barnt Toust 12:43, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nope. Unfortunately, given recent developments, Valnet's publications are deemed unreliable, per WP:RSP/VALNET. That is ambiguous wording and this information traces to an IMDb page and several random Twitter accounts, so WP:FRUIT also applies. Trailblazer101 (talk) 13:32, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I figured this'd happen, Mister Blaze, only a matter of time 'till ye ol' content farm was passed under judgement. And a damn shame too, Polygon's fallen victim to that just recently as well. Barnt Toust 15:21, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Change 39th film to 38th film 103.24.126.29 (talk) 09:29, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: there's is an untitled film slated for release on February 13, 2026. Vestrian24Bio 11:29, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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This film will be the 38th MCU film, not 39th. 2600:1009:B146:D67B:0:54:456B:2701 (talk) 16:02, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not done For the same reasons the edit request above was not done. Jauerback^dude?/_dude. 16:24, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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I RECOMMEND CHANGING 39TH TO 38TH BECAUSE IT COMES AFTER 37TH OF FANTASTIC FOUR. 71.201.247.176 (talk) 16:41, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not done for the same reasons as above. Trailblazer101 (talk) 16:43, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

avengers date change

doomsday just had it's release date pushed back to december.

Next 'Avengers' Movies Push Release Dates via deadline 92.20.112.81 (talk) 23:03, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

you have a typo in december in the article, I cannot edit pages Michaeldicristofano7510 (talk) 23:16, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

already done anyway but thanks 92.20.112.81 (talk) 23:35, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Attuma and Namora

Alex Livinalli and Mabel Cadena were spotted with the films cast in Bahrain. Would stand to reason they should be added to the cast list. Moonlyyte (talk) 19:29, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have a reliable source confirming that they will be in the film? - adamstom97 (talk) 19:31, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Pictures of cast members eating together with them (including Tenoch Heurta) meaning their likely filming scenes for Doomsday https://twitter.com/Marvfess/status/1926830466000195683?t=_mgGqmFr_HGBYvf5MZzwUg&s=19 Moonlyyte (talk) 21:09, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That is speculation (WP:SYNTH) and an unreliable source. We do not include such information without explicit confirmation. — Trailblazer¹⁰¹🔥^{(discuss · contribs)} 21:21, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Jeremy Renner and Benedict Wong have not been Explicitly confirmed either yet are listed. I don't understand how this is any different Moonlyyte (talk) 22:12, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I should have said verification, but confirmation does not mean only stuff directly revealed by Marvel. All information must be from reliable sources. Renner and Wong's involvement is from reliable reports, this is not. — Trailblazer¹⁰¹🔥^{(discuss · contribs)} 23:08, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Even if these pictures came from a reliable source, pictures of people having dinner together is not confirmation that they are in the film. - adamstom97 (talk) 07:44, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wong's "involvement" is literally the same as Livinali and Cadena's. Photos of them with Cast Members (James Marsden for Wong). The only diffence is that Screen Rant picked up the story. Renner's involvement is even more sketchy. Coming from Jeff Sneider (who has gotten plenty inaccurate esp. recently.) And also behind a paywall. It stands to reason you guys can put Livinalli and Cadena in the same section as Wong and Renner. Moonlyyte (talk) 15:30, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

We need a reliable source confirming that they are in the film. Pictures of people having dinner does not confirm that they are in the film. - adamstom97 (talk) 15:38, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wong and Renner aren't either dude. ScreenRant isnt a trade it's a fucking news outlet that just reports stuff. And they picked up on a photo of Wong and Marsden talking to each other. If ScreenRant hadn't picked it up you'd be arguing the same thing. And again Sneider is an inconsistent source. Might as well put anyone DanielRPK says will be in the movie on the page atp 😂 I'd trust him more than Sneider. Moonlyyte (talk) 15:54, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

And let's do a little thinking. Why would Livinalli and Cadena's actors be at a Beach in the middle east with the Rest of the Doomsday cast (including Tenoch Heurta and Letitia Wright) unless it was to film a scene. 0 reason for them to be there otherwise. If ScreenRant picked this up you'd be all over it. Moonlyyte (talk) 15:56, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Please be WP:CIVIL. We need a reliable source confirming that they are in the film. Pictures of people having dinner does not confirm that they are in the film. Nothing you say will change that. - adamstom97 (talk) 16:18, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Literally all you have to do is add a little section on the cast list that Says like 'Additonally Benedict Wong, Jeremy Renner, Alex Livinalli, and Mabel Cadena are expected to reprise their roles as Wong, Clint Barton, Attuma, and Namora'. Not saying they're 100% in the movie but saying they'll likely be in it. I've seen before plenty on these pages so I, Again, don't see a reason this could be added. Apologies for not being Civil but I'm really failing to see how these cases differ. Moonlyyte (talk) 16:38, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Getty Images has photos of them with the cast now https://twitter.com/AvengersUpdated/status/1927419204866576891?t=jZ37oGEH01lttffjiOiryg&s=19 Moonlyyte (talk) 19:47, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

also Screenrant (as pointed out in another discussion on this page) is considered unreliable (as I've been saying) https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:RSP/VALNET&redirect=no Moonlyyte (talk) 19:49, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Screen Rant has recently been deemed to be of questionable reliability, not outright being unreliable. There is a difference. The photos themselves do not confirm them having dinner together was them being involved in filming this film, whereas Benedict Wong was seen on this film's set in costume. These are two distinct scenarios. We cannot infer from the photos that they will appear in the film as that would be WP:SYNTH. It does not matter what you think of the sources, but there are verification policies that need to be followed. No social media posts linked have been reliable. — Trailblazer¹⁰¹🔥^{(discuss · contribs)} 02:25, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I added them in because they’re spotted with the doomsday cast where the film is currently in production. I also added them because just like how Wong and Hawkeye are listed but haven’t been spotted with the cast at the filming locations, I thought I could add Mabel and Alex. ACompleteUnknown1233 (talk) 16:55, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You added no reliable source linking them to the production as actually being part of the cast. We cannot infer this for ourselves, that is WP:SYNTHESIS. — Trailblazer¹⁰¹🔥^{(discuss · contribs)} 17:00, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, sorry ACompleteUnknown1233 (talk) 17:10, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

SuperHero Hype talks about Bahrain filming and these actors, if that helps to include them even if as a "reported" statement. - 100.38.28.154 (talk) 22:37, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

WP:FRUIT applies as the photos themselves do not confirm what is being described. — Trailblazer¹⁰¹🔥^{(discuss · contribs)} 02:21, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]