Draft talk:Great Akan
Appearance
Kingdom of Akani
[edit]I believe this kingdom deserves it's own wikipedia page, it has so many references in old European texts as well as interesting theories and debates from many scholars. AkanArchives (talk) 20:36, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
- I agree, great work! I’ve tagged the sentences that need citations. The Encyclopedia of African History says that Accany also could have been a cultural expression, I think that needs to be included to adhere to WP:NPOV. Kowal2701 (talk) 19:11, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
- Okay, may I please have some assistance on formatting the info box along with Adansi and Akyem please ? I need to revise the page a bit, so we get this draft finalized. I think it’s a very important lost moment in Ghana’s history, especially in regards to early west African and European documentation.
- The existence of Akanny corroborates the oral traditions of Adansi leading various Akan development centers that fractured overtime due to civil wars and disputes, most notably the story of Denkyira usurping Adansi and becoming the leading super power in the south western region of modern-day Ghana.
- Duarte Pacheco Pereira and various Portuguese administrators document civil wars among the Akani Kingdom. And there’s even mention of a singular ruler of Akani in Portuguese documents.
- Pieter De Marees makes some comments about the Akan country located in the interior.
- Overtime this term was used to reference many twi speaking demographics from the Pra-Offin basin who came to the coast to trade gold, this region was mostly part of Adansi. Many historians believe Akani was Adansi, Assin or a confederation of states.
- Based on my research and reviewing written works from various Ghanaian journals and historian I’ve to the conclusion the earliest mention of Akani is refereeing to the regional power of concentration Gold traders lead by the Adansi kingdom or state.
- Please see the Adansi and Akyem, I plan on using those sources to corroborate the exists of “Great Akan”. AkanArchives (talk) 19:31, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
- Okay but be very careful regarding WP:No original research. Our personal opinions don't matter, it's only about those found in WP:Reliable sources. I have previously tried to research early Akan history and improve those articles but I struggled to find authoritative recent sources. Regarding infoboxes, see WP:Infobox, I can help though Kowal2701 (talk) 19:45, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
- I understand, same here it is very difficult. I take Effah Gyamfi’s approach using oral traditions corroborated by legitimate peer reviewed source. I joined Wikipedia because of the outdated information from Meyerowitz and others. Got started I recommend reading Kwasi Konadu, Effah Gyamfi, Dennis M. Warren, and others I will cite. AkanArchives (talk) 19:57, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
- Do sources say Akyem was a unified polity? Or do were the Akyem kingdoms independent of one another? If it's the latter, it might make sense to move the article to Akyem Kingdoms like Mossi Kingdoms or Hausa Kingdoms Kowal2701 (talk) 20:08, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
- Based on Addo-Fening’s work, Akyem wasn’t originally a single centralized kingdom like Asante, but rather a group of three distinct states—Abuakwa, Kotoku, and Bosome—that shared a common identity. They were autonomous to varying degrees but cooperated, especially in resisting Asante expansion. Over time, Abuakwa became the dominant center, and the three were increasingly viewed as a unified front, especially in colonial records where the term “Great Akim” or “Akim Abuakwa” was often used broadly.
- So while “Akyem Kingdoms” captures their initial autonomy, it might overstate the separation and under mine their shared political and cultural identity that developed. I’d suggest keeping the title as “Akyem”, “Greater Akyem” (or possibly “Great Akyem”) and making sure the article itself clearly explains the structure and relationship between the three states. AkanArchives (talk) 21:03, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks, that sounds good. I think this should be made clear in the first sentence Kowal2701 (talk) 21:06, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
- Do sources say Akyem was a unified polity? Or do were the Akyem kingdoms independent of one another? If it's the latter, it might make sense to move the article to Akyem Kingdoms like Mossi Kingdoms or Hausa Kingdoms Kowal2701 (talk) 20:08, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
- I understand, same here it is very difficult. I take Effah Gyamfi’s approach using oral traditions corroborated by legitimate peer reviewed source. I joined Wikipedia because of the outdated information from Meyerowitz and others. Got started I recommend reading Kwasi Konadu, Effah Gyamfi, Dennis M. Warren, and others I will cite. AkanArchives (talk) 19:57, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
- We also really need an article on Okyeame (role), as in the court historian rather than the magazine Okyeame Kowal2701 (talk) 19:51, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, stool, Afena, as well as various pages need to be addressed as well. Thanks for all your help. As said earlier, if you can review and give me some feedback on my Adansi, Akyem, and Denkyira edits, that’d be greatly appreciated. AkanArchives (talk) 20:05, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
- You can make your references tidier and easier for people to check by putting {{Cite book}} or {{Cite journal}} in between the <ref> </ref> and filling out the relevant parameters. You can also use {{rp}} for the page numbers which makes the reference section tidier (although a lot of editors use {{sfn}} for making citations, just do whatever suits you). But your edits are good and you're using good quality sources (often newcomers use poor quality sources). Just make sure you're representing the sources accurately (while avoiding WP:Copyright infringement). It's worth having a skim-read of the WP:Manual of style, and please also use WP:Edit summaries (they don't have to be detailed) Kowal2701 (talk) 20:21, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
- Also, it's more helpful to give the link to the book on Google Books because sometimes you can see the page for free, or search for key words to verify the text Kowal2701 (talk) 20:35, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
- How do I get this page finalized ? I’ve cited all sources and cleaned it up. AkanArchives (talk) 13:00, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- It usually takes a few months for someone to review it, but if you’re confident it’s ready you can move it yourself. See Help:Move Kowal2701 (talk) 13:36, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- How do I get this page finalized ? I’ve cited all sources and cleaned it up. AkanArchives (talk) 13:00, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, stool, Afena, as well as various pages need to be addressed as well. Thanks for all your help. As said earlier, if you can review and give me some feedback on my Adansi, Akyem, and Denkyira edits, that’d be greatly appreciated. AkanArchives (talk) 20:05, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
- Okay but be very careful regarding WP:No original research. Our personal opinions don't matter, it's only about those found in WP:Reliable sources. I have previously tried to research early Akan history and improve those articles but I struggled to find authoritative recent sources. Regarding infoboxes, see WP:Infobox, I can help though Kowal2701 (talk) 19:45, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
Great Akani page
[edit]I’m assuming that publishes the page ? Is there any penalty and may I have some feed back on the article ? AkanArchives (talk) 18:05, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- There’s a backlog at AFC of 3 months (there’s over 3000 articles in the queue), which means it will probably take another two months for someone to review the article. You’re unlikely to get much in-depth feedback here. The page becomes published when it is moved from draft space to mainspace. If you don’t want to wait the two months or so, you can move to mainspace it yourself (Help:Move). If you want some in-depth feedback on an article you’ve written, you can try WP:PEERREVIEW. Kowal2701 (talk) 18:58, 17 May 2025 (UTC)