Draft:8,5x63 REB

8,5x63 Reb
8,5x63 Reb
Type	rifle
Place of origin	Germany
Production history
Designer	Werner Reb
Manufacturer	wildcat
Produced	1987
Variants	rimmed (R)
Specifications
Parent case	.30-06 Spr.
Case type	Non-rimmed / rimmed; bottleneck
Bullet diameter	.338 in (8.6 mm)
Shoulder diameter	80°(angle)
Case length	63mm
Overall length	86mm
Primer type	Large Rifle
Maximum pressure	4300 bar
Ballistic performance
	Test barrel length: 24 in.

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Comment: Please address the previous review before resubmitting. Thank you! Tarlby ^{(t) (c)} 23:09, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

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8,5x63 is a Continental Europe Rifle caliber.

In metric system classification, 8.5mm (about .338" in Imperial system) describes ogive diameter, 63mm stands for the case length.

Available in non-rimmed (rebated rimless - for bolt-action rifles) and rimmed (R) version for "express" (double-barrels) and kipplauf (single shot rifle); barrels in this caliber are produced in Strasser and Blaser factories, in very limited numbers.

Its kinetic energy is neatly superior to 7x64 and .30-06, slightly inferior to .338 Winchester Magnum, but can approach it with proper loading; can give performances comparable to .338-06 with mild loads. Loaded with semiprogressive powders, expresses good velocities in mid-length barrels (53-58cm) and on medium distance shots.

Almost exclusively used in central EU (Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Northern Italy) for class 2-3 game in "battue" or pirsch (red deer, wild boar, moose), erratic availability of ammunition and reloading gear limit its diffusion.

Original ammunition is produced and distributed by Brenneke (TAG bullet - 190grs, or TOG - 225grs.) and SAX munitions GmbH (Lutz Möller's KJG monolithic bullet, 9g).

cases can be fireformed from 30-06, 280 Rem, 7x64, .35Whelen for rimless barrels, or from 7x65R for rimmed version.

References

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[1] "8,5x63. Storia del Re della selezione e della battuta". 30 June 2019.

[2] "8.5x63mm: A Rimmed Thumper for Heavy Critters".

[3] "Kaliber 8,5x63: Die fast vergessene Forstmannpatrone | PIRSCH". 17 August 2024.

[4] ttps://www.grunwald-ammo.com/85x63-reb-storia-del-re-della-selezione-e-della-battuta/<

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