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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more templates or modules. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 14:34, 11 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nav aid that is a duplication or redundant to {{Justin Trudeau}}. Link spam at its worst in my view and is discouraged by MOS:LEADELEMENTS ="The placement of a sidebar in the lead is generally discouraged" as talked about at November 2020 RfC. Other deletion 2024 September RFC. Canadian politicians simply do not use these as per objections by the Canadian Wikiproject. In Canada we simply don't follow the American example of these link spam duplicte templates on every related page Moxy🍁 14:31, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

previously deleted Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2024 July 26#Template:Trudeau sidebar

Copy of the relevant talk page section
== Do we need this? ==
What do we need this template for, if it's not used in the articles listed? For example, of the 13 articles listed under the 43rd and 44th Parliaments section, only two actually use the sidebar, and I am doubting either of the two actually should. I am asking because the sidebar has just been removed[1] from the 2023 Canadian wildfires article because it is giving WP:UNDUE weight to topic (with which I agree). Renerpho (talk) 03:34, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Would vote for deletion as a nav aid its a duplication or redundant to {{Justin Trudeau}}. American political articles have these spammed all over....we (Canada) only have two Template:Harper sidebar both made by a banned editor User:Charles lindberg. Link spam at its worst in my view and is discouraged by MOS:LEADELEMENTS ="The placement of a sidebar in the lead is generally discouraged" as talked about at November 2020 RfC. Have removed it many times from main Justin Trudeau page...mostly add by Charles sockpuppets...hes still with us but does not try this anymore.Moxy- 04:01, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I am also wondering why we need this template. It seems tangentially related to many of the articles it appears on, and there is no clear indication why five politicians in the history of Canada and its provinces have one.
Adding it to some pages suggests that the article was written from a position biased towards or focused on Canada. For example, on the Canada–Philippines waste dispute article, the addition of this sidebar suggests that the dispute was caused by Trudeau. Without a corresponding sidebar for Duterte (which I'm not suggesting), the article does not appear neutral or international. This seems to occur in other articles on Canada's international relations.
On domestic affairs, the events listed on the template, such as the Nova Scotia shootings and the 2023 wildfires, are not always clearly related to government policies or to Trudeau himself. The sidebar does not appear (and should not appear) on those pages, but it is unclear why those pages are linked in the sidebar.
Similarly, there seems to be bias in the way that political events are dealt with. For example, no other sidebar has a separate section for scandals and controversies - those events are integrated into the list of events - but it appears on this sidebar. Without a clear framework for what types of events should be listed on sidebars and what shouldn't, which politicians should have one, and what pages they should be added to, political sidebars can too easily become partisan. Careless lemon (talk) 20:32, 27 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template or module's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more templates or modules. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

The result of the discussion was merge to Template:Gilbreth family. plicit 14:33, 11 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Template:Cheaper by the Dozen with Template:Gilbreth family.
Substantial duplication --woodensuperman 08:41, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template or module's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more templates or modules. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 03:48, 11 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Misleading name and nonsense content. Duplication attempt of Template:Multiple issues? Perhaps it's just vandalism? JFHJr () 01:12, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template or module's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.