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February 15

Week numbers

Do most English speakers know ISO 8601 week numbers? In some other Wikipedias, there is a weekly contest every week, like e.g. Finnish Wikipedia's Viikon kilpailu. In this contest, weeks are numbered according to ISO 8601, and they start on Monday and end on Sunday. Would similar contest in English Wikipedia work? Would all users know that current week is "Week 7" and it starts on 10 February and ends on 16 February? --40bus (talk) 21:38, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No. --142.112.222.162 (talk) 21:54, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

i don't know why you return so frequently and happily to this place (where destiny is made) to pose these questions,

or whether you really are under the impression that those accustomed to use calendars with systems of years - months - weeks - days (i.e., virtually (?) all of them) would know independently which week in the year it is when this information is never of any consequence 130.74.58.24 (talk) 21:54, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That system is not used in the United States, to my knowledge. And starting weeks on Mondays would seem very odd to Americans, as well. --User:Khajidha (talk) (contributions) 21:56, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

In the UK, although informally people often think of the week as starting on Monday, officially it starts on Sunday, and most (though not all) calendars and diaries conform to this.

Week numbers exist, and some diaries (such as my current pocket diary) show them, although others (such as my current A5 day-per-page diary) do not. They are not much used, except in some business and financial contexts, and if a random person were asked, they would be unlikely to know the current week number. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.8.123.129 (talk) 22:14, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"In the UK, although informally people often think of the week as starting on Monday, officially it starts on Sunday, and most (though not all) calendars and diaries conform to this." Source, please. I'm in the UK and I have never heard this. Proteus (Talk) 17:54, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Would a similar weeky contest work in English Wikipedia? Do Australia and UK ever use ISO 8601 week numbers? --40bus (talk) 22:26, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It's not an Australian custom. HiLo48 (talk) 22:39, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I vaguely recall seeing week numbers used in some old desk calendars, but the week number itself seldom if ever came up in conversation. Where we hear it most often is usages such as "NFL Week 17" or whatever, which is the NFL's own system. In business, we're more apt to hear about fractions of the year such as "Fourth Quarter" or whatever. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 04:30, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

ISO week date, in case anyone else is interested.

There are many weekly competitions in the UK or elsewhere, notably those that appear in weekly newspapers, magazines and journals, and many lotteries operate on a weekly basis. As far as I'm aware, each of these will be numbered (if at all, they may instead use forms like ". . . for week starting/ending Xday yth Septober" and the like) according to the organisers' individual needs, and ISO week numbers are unlikely to figure. I expect some official uses of week numbers take the week beginning with or containing 6th April as their 'Week 1', as this is the start of the UK's Tax year. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.8.123.129 (talk) 09:48, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

One disincentive to use of this system in Australia might be that the fiscal year begins on 1 July and ends on 30 June following. Here in Britain the financial year begins on 1 April. So for council and social housing tenants (some housing associations have taken over council properties without changing the system) the rent due on the first Monday in April is the rent due for "week 1", and so on. Tenants who pay monthly will divide the annual rent by 12, but it's not always a case of multiplying the weekly rent by 52 to find the annual rent, because sometimes there are 53 Mondays in the year. When the government passed legislation to prohibit social landlords increasing rents more than once every 365 days they didn't factor that in. If say in one year week 1 begins on Monday, 2 April, the following year it may begin on Monday 1 April, which is only 364 days on. Landlords protested and the wording was tweaked. 2A00:23C7:C98C:4501:88C6:3846:ED4D:8612 (talk) 14:31, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Opening times of "Monday to Friday", Monday to Saturday" [1] and "Monday to Sunday" are commonly quoted. I've never seen "Sunday to Saturday", which suggests the working week is considered to begin on Monday. Diaries I've seen which display "one week to view" start on Monday. Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday appear on the left and Thursday and Friday appear on the right opposite Monday and Tuesday. Saturday and Sunday appear opposite Wednesday, each occupying half the space as appointments may not be scheduled for Saturday and Sunday is a recognised non-working day.

Some churches use a system called Ordinary Time. I was under the impression that in the Roman breviary/missal there are 36 weeks of Ordinary Time, i.e. the 52 weeks of the year less the nine weeks from Septuagesima to Easter and the seven weeks from Easter to Whitsun, but our article says something different, and starts it on the second Monday in January. 2A02:C7C:F33B:4100:4D40:420E:1C6B:B936 (talk) 19:15, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

In Poland, week numbers do tend to be printed on and in calendars (just peeked into my pocket blood donor calendar - it also has them) but to expect anyone in private to offhand know the current week number would be a hopeless exercise. Far as I know, outside of logistics and purchasing (like, where orders would be expected to be delivered say in week 34 of the year), and perhaps other specialist fields I may not be aware of, people don't care about the week number. --Ouro (blah blah) 12:05, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You're missing the point. That same contest could have run that same period without mentioning ISO weeks. My employer pays 1000s of paychecks every week without using ISO week numbers. Lots and lots of things happen weekly witout ISO numbers. What purpose do these numbers fulfill?--User:Khajidha (talk) (contributions) 11:41, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I rather suspect these week numbers are used in computer programming ISO week date cited. Our resident astronomer has something to say on this - some Twitter users were unable to log in around midnight of 29 December 2014 on account of this. His tables are fascinating - especially this one [2]. The phrase "Sunday to Saturday" is used - example here [3]. The sound has disintegrated but the wives of the Bishop of Dover and the Bishop of Chichester were definitely there first time round. 92.14.26.186 (talk) 17:29, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Why bother with these week numbers? Why not simply say that a contest runs (for example) from 6 June to 12 June? --User:Khajidha (talk) (contributions) 18:40, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Finnish Wikipedia's contest has run continuously from 26 November 2012, following ISO 8601 weeks. Every Monday, a new contest starts and runs until following Sunday. Could English Wikipedia manage to do that? --40bus (talk) 22:41, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You're missing the point. That same contest could have run that same period without mentioning ISO weeks. My employer pays 1000s of paychecks every week without using ISO week numbers. Lots and lots of things happen weekly witout ISO numbers. What purpose do these numbers fulfill?--User:Khajidha (talk) (contributions) 11:41, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Proteus: See comment by 2A02:C7C above. Our resident astronomer has something to say about this, including this fascinating table [4]. You can go back one year at a time (or forward), but it carries on with the Gregorian calendar when you go back before 1582, even though it didn't exist. It even gives Easter dates before the Christian era! (Going back before AD 1 you reach "year 0" (1 BC) and then "year -1" (2 BC)). On 92.14's link, I've listened to the video in question and the post contains an error - the individuals named are the Bishop of Dover (as stated) and the Bishop of Chichester's daughter (not as stated). Getting back to Proteus' query, I've examined some diaries for the period 1941-2020, and here's what I discovered. In this analysis "week to view" is understood to mean Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday on the left and Thursday, Friday and half-size Saturday and Sunday on the right (except where indicated) and "week numbers" are ISO standard (unless stated otherwise). So to begin:

1941: calendar runs Su-Sa, week to view has Su-We on left, Th-Sa and "Memo" on right
1969: calendar runs Su-Sa
1970 Engagements diary: weeks begin Mo (Mo 5 Ja - Mo 28 De), calendar runs Su - Sa.

There is then a series of BBC diaries, covering the years 1972 - 1990. These employ week numbers, but they are "programme weeks", which begin Sa, so the calendars run Sa - Fr, although the ordinary calendars in the 1972 and 1973 editions (after which they are phased out) run Su - Sa. The system does not appear to have been fully thought out in the initial stages. The 1972 calendar shows week 1 commencing 1 Ja and week 52 ending 29 De. No week number is assigned to 30 De and 31 De, although in the diary pages they are headed "Week 53". In the diary for 1973, calendar for 1973, Sa and Su for week 1 are blank, and the first entry in that column is Mo 1 Ja. Week 52 ends 28 De, no week number is assigned to 29 De, 30 De and 31 De, and nor is a week number assigned to these dates in the diary section. In the 1974 diary, calendar for 1974, the first 3 days in week 1 are blank, the first entry being Tu 1 Ja. Week 52 ends 27 De, and no week number is assigned to 28 De, 29 De, 30 De and 31 De either there or in the diary section. This diary includes advance calendars for 1975, 1976 and 1977. For 1975 Sa - Tu of week 1 are blank and the first entry is We 1 Ja. Week 53 begins on 27 De. In the 1975 diary pages 27 De, 28 De, 29 De, 30 De and 31 De are assigned to week 53. In the 1976 advance calendar printed in the 1974 diary the first column shows Th 1 Ja and Fr 2 Ja but no week number is assigned. Week 1 begins 3 Ja. In the 1976 diary the calendar shows Th 1 Ja 1976 and Fr 2 Ja 1976 as part of week 53, although the advance calendar for 1976 printed in the 1975 diary (like the one printed in the 1974 diary) does not assign a week number for these dates. In the diary section for 1976, Th 1 Ja and Fr 2 Ja are assigned to week 53. Week 1 begins 3 Ja. There is a smooth transition at the end of the year - week 52 ends 31 De, week 1 of 1977 begins 1 Ja. In the 1976 diary the advance calendar for 1977 for the first time shows Sa 31 De 1977 as being in week 1. At the end of 1977 in the advance calendar as printed in the 1974 diary no week number had been assigned to Sa 31 De. In the 1978 advance calendar Sa of week 1 is blank and entries commence with Su 1 Ja 1978.

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I (An Australian) remember being taught that, regardless of however a wall calendar might be arranged, the first day of the week is Sunday. That's because it's the Sabbath, ie. the most important day. Later, it occurred to me that the Sabbath was supposed to be the day of rest, corresponding to the 7th Day of Creation. That should mean that Monday is the first day and Sunday the last day. In the Jewish system, their Sabbath is Saturday, meaning that their week starts on Sunday. Strange how the Christians adopted the concept of a Sabbath as a day of rest, yet somehow managed to make it the first day of Creation, when most of the work of creating the Universe was done (not exactly a day of rest), rather than the last, when God rested. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 20:04, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sunday is sometimes called the "Christian Sabbath"... And it's no coincidence that in Spanish, at least, the word Sábado is used for both "Saturday" and "Sabbath". ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 21:37, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Russian has Суббота (Subbóta) for Saturday. And their word for Sunday literally means "resurrection". Both are hangovers from Orthodox Christianity. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 21:56, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Jack, if this concerns you, I'm sure you can find a local Seventh-day Adventist congregation; they keep the Saturday sabbath. As far as I can tell they're quite correct that there is no scriptural support for a Sunday sabbath. --Trovatore (talk) 21:48, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe I'm not quite as concerned as that. But thanks. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 21:56, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Week numbers called EpiWeeks are used in epidemiology where they are a useful and constant-sized granularity. Unfortunately they are not smoothly created by Excel.Hayttom (talk) 23:54, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

In Portuguese (and Spanish also, I believe) the word for Sunday is domingo, which means "the Lord's day". Portugal uses the same weekday names as the Church, in which Sunday is Dominica and Saturday is sabbatum, rendered as stated by Baseball Bugs. (And by the way, the Bishop of Dover is a very nice lady. With Welby operating from Lambeth Palace she runs the Canterbury diocese, and she may well be Archbishop of Canterbury this time next year). Getting back to the analysis, the advance calendar for 1978 in the BBC diary (first published in the 1975 diary), shows no week number for Sa 30 De and Su 31 De. In the 1976 and subsequent diaries, however, (calendars are retained for a few years in diaries published after the relevant year for reference purposes), the calendar for 1978 places these dates in week 1. The advance calendar for 1979, first printed in the 1976 diary, shows no week number for Sa 29 De, Su 30 De and Mo 31 De. In the 1977 and subsequent diaries, however, the calendar for 1979 shows these dates as being in week 1.

Up to 1985 the week numbering is consistent with the first Wednesday in January falling in week 1. From 1975, the first Tuesday in January has always fallen in programme week 1, and thus the programme weeks align with the ISO weeks from their introduction in 1988, since the first Thursday in January falls in week 1 in the ISO system but the weeks begin two days later. The calendar for 1979 places Sa 29 De, Su 30 De and Mo 31 De in week 1, as already stated, but the advance calendar for 1984, first printed in the 1981 diary, places these dates in week 53! The 1982 diary does the same. So either the BBC did not understand the system or there was no system to be understood. At any rate, in the 1984 diary pages these dates are assigned to week 1. No wonder the ISO decided to create order from confusion by promulgating the ISO week numbers from 1988. In the 1982 diary also the advance calendar for 1985 shows Sa, Su and Mo of week 1 blank, with the first entry being Tu 1 Ja 1985.

1971 (nothing to do with the BBC): calendar runs Mo - Su, 4 days to view runs continuously
1976: calendar runs Su - Sa
1981 Train drivers' diary (also 1982, 1983, 1984, 1985): calendar runs Mo - Su, week to page runs Su - Sa
1981: calendars and week to page run Mo - Su
1982: calendars and week to page run Su - Sa
1983: calendar runs Mo - Su. week to page runs Mo -Su with week 52 beginning Mo 27 De 1982 and week 1 beginning on Mo 3 Ja 1983 and 2 Ja 1984.
1984 (also 1985, 1986, 1987, 1988 and 1989): calendars and week to page run Mo - Su
1988 Train drivers' diary: "Rota Link Numbers" and week to page run Su - Sa
1988 BBC diary: in addition to the programme weeks running Sa - Fr, includes forward planner running Mo - Su
1989: calendar runs Mo - Su, week to view runs Su - Sa, with Su - We on left and Th - Sa on right with notes and (sometimes) extracts from Adrian Plass's diary at bottom
1990: calendar runs Mo - Su, week to view runs space for notes Mo - We on left and Th - Su on right
1990: calendar runs Mo - Su, week to view runs Mo - Su with Mo - Th on left and Fr - Su on right with a 3 - month calendar on bottom
1991 Almanach des dates: calendar runs Mo - Su
1991 English diary: calendar runs Mo - Su, week to view runs Mo - Su with Mo - We on left and Th, Fr and half - size Sa and Su on right. From now on, where week to view is mentioned this is the format unless otherwise stated
1991: year planner and calendars run Mo - Su. The week numbers are also shown on the diary pages. Week 1 begins 1 Ja 1990, 31 De 1990, 30 De 1991 and 28 De 1992
1991: calendar and week to page Mo - Su
1992: year planners, calendar and week to page run Mo - Su. Week numbers are shown on the year planner and diary pages
1992 Train drivers' diary: "Rota Link Numbers" and week to page Su - Sa
1992: calendar runs Su - Sa, week to view has Mo - Fr on left, Sa - Su on right with recipes at bottom
1993: calendars and week to page run Mo - Su
1993: calendars run Mo - Su, week to view runs Mo - Su with Mo - Fr on left, Sa opposite Mo and Tu, Su opposite We and Th, "Reminders" opposite Fr
1994: calendars run Mo - Su, week numbers are shown on the calendar and diary pages
1994 (also 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998 and 1999): year planner, calendar and week to view run Mo - Su
1994 Agenda Libertaria (Barcelona): calendar runs Mo - Su. Includes a calendario menstrual running Sa - Fr, apparently because 1 January that year happened to be Sa
1995: calendars and week to page run Mo - Su
1995: calendars run Mo - Su (shows week numbers)
1995 Train drivers' diary: "Rota Link Numbers" and week to page run Su - Sa, calendars run Mo - Su
1996: year planner runs Mo - Su (week numbers shown), calendars and week to view run Mo - Su
1997 (also 1998): calendars and week to view run Mo - Su (shows week numbers)
1998 Train drivers' diary: "Rota Link Numbers" run Su - Sa, calendars run Mo - Su, week to view runs Su - Sa, shows week numbers with week 52 beginning Su 21 De 1997, week 1 beginning Su 28 De 1997 and Su 3 Ja 1999. 1999 planner runs Su - Sa, shows week numbers, week 1 begins Su 2 Ja 2000
1999: calendars and week to view run Mo - Su (shows week numbers)
1999: year planners, calendars and week to view run Mo - Su (shows week numbers)
1999: calendars run Mo - Su (shows week numbers). Tax Week 39 begins Mo 28 De 1998, Tax Week 53 begins Mo 5 Ap 1999, Tax Week 1 begins Tu 6 Ap 1999
1999: forward planners, calendars run Mo - Su
2000: year planners and week to view run Mo - Su (shows week numbers)
2000: calendars run Mo - Su, week to view runs Su - Sa with "Reminders", Su - Tu on left and We - Sa on right
2001 Monatplan: runs Mo - Su with week numbers and week to view
2001: year planners and calendars run Mo - Su, week to view runs Mo - Su (shows week numbers)
2001: year planners and calendars run Mo - Su, PAYE week 38 begins Th 21 De 2000, PAYE week 53 begins Th 5 Ap 2001, PAYE week 1 begins Fr 6 Ap 2001
2001: year planners run Mo - Su, week to view runs Mo - Su
2001 Racing diary: calendars run Mo - Su, week to view runs Mo - Su with Mo, Tu, We and a calendar on left and Th, Fr, Sa and half size Su (opposite the calendar) on right
2002: week to view runs Mo - Su with Mo - Th on left, Fr - Su and Memo on right
2003: week to page runs Mo - Su
2003: year planners run Mo - Su, week to view runs Mo - Su (shows week numbers)
2003 Islamic diary: 2 days per page, except that Friday has 1/2 page, Sa below it has 1/3 page and Su at the bottom has 1/6 page
2004: year planners, calendars and week to view run Mo - Su with week numbers
2004 Bingo diary: forward planner 2005 and calendars run Mo - Su, week to view runs Mo - Su with Mo - We on the left and Th (1/3 page), Fr (1/3 page), Sa (1/4 page) and Su (1/12 page) on the right
2004 Leprosy mission diary: calendars run Su - Sa with week numbers, week 1 begins Su 29 De 2002, Su 28 De 2003, Su 2 Ja 2005 and Su 1 Ja 2006, week to view runs Su - Sa with Su - We on left, Th to Sa on right and Bible verses and a calendar opposite We
2004: calendars run Su - Sa, week to view runs Su - Sa with Su - We on the left, Th - Sa on the right and a calendar opposite We
2005: calendars run Mo - Su, week to view runs Mo - Su (with week numbers)
2006: year planners and calendars run Mo - Su, week 53 begins Mo 26 De 2005, week 52 begins Mo 25 De 2006
2006: calendars run Mo - Su, week to view runs Mo - Su (shows week numbers). Tax Week 39 is shown as commencing Mo 26 De 2005, Tax Week 52 as beginning Mo 27 Mr 2006 and Tax Week 1 as beginning Mo 3 Ap 2006
2007: year planner and calendars run Mo - Su, week to view runs Mo - Su (shows week numbers)
2007: calendars run Mo - Su, week to view runs Mo - Su with Mo - Th on left and Fr - Su on right with Notes at bottom
2007: calendars run Mo - Su, week to page runs Mo - Su. Week numbers are shown - the week commencing Mo 31 De 2007 is described as "Week 53/1"
2008: calendars run Mo - Su, week to view runs Mo - Su with Mo - Th on left and Fr - Su on right with a picture of plants or animals at bottom
2008 - calendars run Mo - Su, week to view runs Mo - Su (with week numbers). Tax Week 40 is shown as beginning on Mo 31 De 2007, Tax Week 53 as beginning on Mo 31 Mr 2008, and Tax Week 1 as beginning on Mo 7 Ap 2008.
2008: calendar runs Mo - Su, week to page runs Su - Sa
2009: calendar and monthly planner run Mo - Su, week to view runs Mo - Su (week numbers shown)
2009: calendars and week to view run Mo -Su
2009: year planners and calendars run Mo - Su, week to view runs Mo - Su (week numbers shown), PAYE week 39 begins 29 De 2008, PAYE week 52 begins Mo 30 Mr 2009, PAYE week 1 begins Mo 6 Ap 2009
2009: year planner and calendars run Mo - Su, year planner shows week numbers. Pay Week 40 is shown as beginning Mo 29 De 2008, Pay Week 53 as beginning Mo 30 Mr 2009 and Pay Week 1 as beginning Mo 6 Ap 2009. Week to view runs Mo - Su with Mo - Th on left and Fr - Su on right with a calendar at the bottom
2010: calendars and monthly planners run Mo - Su, week to view runs Mo - Su (week numbers shown)
2011: year planners run Mo - Su (week numbers shown), calendars and week to view run Mo - Su
2012: calendars run Mo Su, week to view runs Mo - Su (shows week numbers), Ja 2013 planner runs Mo - Su
2012 (also 2013, 2014 and 2015): year planners and calendars run Mo - Su, week to view runs Mo - Su (shows week numbers)
2013: year planner 2014 runs Mo - Su (shows week numbers), calendars run Mo - Su, week to view runs Mo - Su with Mo - Th on left and Fr - Su on right with Notes at bottom
2015: year planners run Mo - Su (week numbers shown), calendars run Mo - Su, week to view runs Mo - Su (shows week numbers). Tax week 40 begins Su 4 Ja, Tax week 53 begins Su 5 Ap, Tax week 1 begins Mo 6 Ap
2015: year planners and calendars run Mo - Su, week numbers shown. Paye 39 shown against Su 28 De 2014, Paye 52 shown against Su 29 Mr 2015, nothing shown against Su 5 Ap, Paye 1 shown against Mo 6 Ap
2016: calendars run Mo - Su, week to view runs Mo - Su (shows week numbers)
2016: year planners and calendars run Mo - Su, week to view runs Mo - Su (shows week numbers). Paye 38 shown against Mo 21 De 2015, Paye 52 shown against Mo 28 Mr 2016, no Paye shown against Mo 4 Ap 2016, Paye 1 shown against We 6 Ap 2016
2017 (also 2018): year planners and calendars run Mo - Su, week to view runs Mo - Su, Mo - Th on left, Fr - Su on right with Notes at the bottom (shows week numbers)
2018: year planners and calendars run Mo - Su, 2 days per page, Su is followed by notes (shows week numbers)
2018: calendars run Mo - Su, week to view runs Mo - Su, with Mo - Th on left, Fr - Su on right, with space at bottom for notes (shows week numbers)
2018: Seize the Day! diary: calendars run Su - Sa, week to view runs Mo - Su (shows week numbers)
2018 - 2019 Jewish diary: week to view runs Su - Sa, Su - Tu and space for notes on right, We - Sa on left
2018 - 2019 Bridge diary: calendars run Mo - Su, week to view runs Mo - Su (shows week numbers)
2018 - 2019 How to survive a boring week at the office diary: calendars run Su - Sa, week to page runs Mo - Su
2019 (also 2020): year planners and calendars run Mo - Su, week to view runs Mo - Su (shows week numbers)
2020: year planners and calendars run Mo - Su, week to view runs Mo - Su (shows week numbers). Tax week 40 begins Sa 4 Ja 2020, Tax week 53 begins Sa 4 Ap 2020, Tax week 1 begins Mo 6 Ap 2020
2020 Racing diary: week to view runs Mo - Su, Mo - Th on left, Fr - Su on right, advertisement at bottom
2022: calendars run Sun - Sa, week to view runs Mo - Su
2023 Art diary: calendars run Su - Sa, week to page runs Mo - Su (shows week numbers) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.96.17.190 (talk) 15:32, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Our resident astronomer's table seems to have been prepared before Ordinary Time took over from week numbers counting "after Epiphany" and "after Trinity". The table gives the date of Easter Sunday and you can then go to year-specific tables giving week numbers in Ordinary Time from February 2002 to May 2025. The current table is at [5]. Outside that range, using the fact that our astronomer's table gives the date of Easter Sunday it is a simple matter to pick a year with the same Easter date. There are 35 possible Easter dates and 24 years are covered, so an exact match is more likely than not. Please offer prayers for Pope Francis at this critical time. Latest: [6] 31.120.3.166 (talk) 13:30, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Jack, I wouldn't call the Russian word for Sunday, voskresen'ye, a "hangover from Orthodox Christianity". Orthodox Christianity is as vibrant in Russia as it is in Ukraine. 31.117.63.161 (talk) 14:15, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Picking up on 2A00:23C7's comment, as it happens the financial year 2024-2025 had 53 Mondays in it. A typical notice says:

There are 53 Mondays in the 2024/25 financial year, starting from Monday 1 April 2024. This happens every five to six years. To calculate your new monthly payment, you should multiply your new weekly rent by 53, then divide by 12.

If you're receiving Universal Credit, you'll need to be mindful there will be one week of rent not covered by Universal Credit. This means you'll have to pay this yourself.

Why is this? The obvious way to pay the rent element of Universal Credit is to multiply the weekly rent by 4 and pay the resultant sum every four weeks. Is Universal Credit paid calendar monthly? This is how the government got round the 53 - week glitch: paragraph 3 of the "Notice proposing a new rent" says:

The first rent increase date after 11 February 2003 is 5 April 2004. (See note 11 over the page).

Note 11 reads:

Unless the tenancy is a new one, or one of the exceptions mentioned in note 17 applies, you must insert in paragraph 3 of the notice the first date after 11th February 2003, on which rent is proposed to be, or was, increased under this statutory notice procedure. That date determines the date that you can specify in paragraph 4 of the notice. See also note 16.

Note 16 reads:

...(a) The starting date for the proposed new rent must be not earlier than 52 weeks after the date on which the rent was last increased using this statutory procedure...unless

(b) that would result in an increase date falling one week or more before the anniversary of the date in paragraph 3 of the notice, in which case the starting date must be not earlier than 53 weeks from the date on which the rent was last increased.