Wikipedia:Peer review/Alex Higgins/archive2
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I've listed this article for peer review because I would like to see it get to GA then FA status.
Some of the areas I think need discussion/work are:
- Citation needed and any other tags to be dealt with.
- Make sure all the cited material in the lead is covered in the body and then take any citations out of the lead. (Unless there are any statements in the lead that need citations per MOS:LEADCITE.)
- Images. The 1968 images were uploaded as "own work" by an editor who on their user page says "I was born ... in the mid-60s." Sadly, I don't think that image is freely usable.
- The 1970s and 1980s sections might need bit of expansion. I find Williams & Gadsby to be a good reference for what to include. Are there any particular matches/tournaments/incidents that are clearly missing? (Some seem to merit more than the current brief mention, e.g. 1983 UK Championship.)
- The Playing style/Other media appearances/Personal life/Illness and death/Legacy sections may need some re-organisation.
- I'm pretty sure there should be more to add about Legacy. I'll have a look around sources.
- Performance and rankings timeline. WP:SNOOKER has sometimes talked about changing the format of these. A few different versions have got through GA/FAC reviews. What about the version here?
There may well be more to do that isn't covered in the points above. Pinging Armbrust who took this to Peer Review back in 2010, and Andygray110, Rodney Baggins, LowSelfEstidle and HurricaneHiggins who are also among the top authors by percentage. Also Lee Vilenski, AlH42 and Canary757 who have active snooker GA nominations. Apologies if the ping is unwelcome.
Thanks, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 22:28, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
Comments by Alavense
[edit]I'm reading the article and I'll provide a few comments as I do that, BennyOnTheLoose. Great work, as always. Hope they are useful:
- Life and career
- I guess a link to snooker and billiards hall could be added.
- If cuegloss is provided for points, maybe it's also needed for frame?
- Add cuegloss for breaks at the first mention.
- In the second paragraph of the 1970s section, there are quite a few snooker-related terms. Could some of those be linked? I don't know how many, though.
- Link the 1990 World Snooker Championship when mentioned in until Stephen Hendry's victory at the age of 21 in 1990.
- In April 1976 - That link is weird. Given that the World Championship hasn't been mentioned for a while now, maybe you could say something like Higgins reached the final of the World Championship again and add the link there.
- Higgins led 10–9 against but faded over the stretch - Something is missing there.
- and then compiled a break of 69 against White in the penultimate frame. Higgins had been 0–59 points behind in that frame, but managed to compile - Can one of the compile(d)s be exchanged for something like produce(d) maybe?
- Cuegloss could be used for clearance.
- Later that year the four, with Status Quo released a cover of "The Wanderer" - A comma is missing.
- His final professional triumph was in the 1989 Irish Masters when he defeated Stephen Hendry. This was the last professional tournament he won - Isn't the second sentence a bit redundant? Or am I missing a point?
- when he registered for pre-season qualifying matches in Stoke - The Stoke link leads to a disambiguation page.
- There are two "returns to form" in two consecutive paragraphs.
- and Cliff Thorburn, he faced Thorburn in his match - I think a full stop would be better there.
- Personal life
- Higgins had a long and enduring friendship with Oliver Reed - with actor Oliver Reed maybe?
- He was found dead in bed in his flat on 24 July 2010 - Maybe you could say how old he was when he died after that sentence.
- Legacy
- Add cuegloss for 16-red clearance.
- References
- Both the dates of his birth and death are already sourced in the article, so there's no need to have those references in the lede.
- The fact that he was referred to as "Hurricane Higgins" is not mentioned in the article and it should. Thus, the reference could also be removed from the lede.
- Could Alex Higgins, the Bombastic 'People's Champion' of Pro Snooker, Dies at 61 be moved to the 1970s, where the nickname the "The People's Champion" is already mentioned?
- he is often credited as a key figure in snooker's success as a mainstream televised sport in the 1980s - Something about this should be said in Legacy.
That's what I got from reading the article. I'll have a look at the references as well. Kind regards, Alavense (talk) 06:48, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
- Many thanks, Alavense. I think I've taken account of all your points. I'll have another look at a couple of key sources to see if anything significant has been omitted. There are also few points I'm not sure about, like his his final match on the professional circuit - the CueSport book suggests he played Gary Ponting in qualifying round 2 at the 1997 UK Championship and I might have to get the old copy of Snooker Scene from the British Library to check that. (Even though the Hennessey book does support that hs last match was against Neil Mosley). BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 10:53, 5 June 2025 (UTC)
- PS to the above - looks like it was John Higgins, not Alex Higgins that Gary Ponting defeated in round 2 at the 1997 UK Championship; the CueSport book seems to have listed the result under the wrong Higgins. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 22:38, 6 June 2025 (UTC)