Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Eve Cone/archive1

Eve Cone

Featured article candidates/Eve Cone/archive1

Nominator(s): Volcanoguy 18:03, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This article is about one of the most symmetrical and best-preserved cinder cones in Canada. It is also one of the youngest eruptive centres in the Desolation Lava Field, which is part of the Mount Edziza volcanic complex in northwestern British Columbia. Volcanoguy 18:03, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Image review

Here'll be some of my comments. Arconning (talk) 09:06, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

File:Edziza042909-- 027-6.jpg - CC BY 4.0
File:Canada British Columbia relief location map.jpg - CC BY-SA 3.0
File:Edziza cones and lava flow.jpg - Public Domain, please don't use a fixed px size. Use an |upright= configuration instead.
Using upright makes the image smaller and the image text unreadable for PC users. Volcanoguy 15:38, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Pass - Arconning (talk) 03:33, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I've swapped fixed px size to use upright; I forgot it's possible to use make images larger using upright. Volcanoguy 00:24, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
File:Edziza042909-- 023-5.jpg - CC BY 4.0
All of the images have alt-text for accessibility.

Comments Support from Ganesha811

I should have time to review this over the next few days. —Ganesha811 (talk) 12:28, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The cites appear to mostly be reliable academic and government sources. Just a few things on them:
It's a bit odd to have Mussio as 3 separate citations, to pages 88, 89, and 88-89 together. It would make more sense to combine into a single citation.

Can you confirm that Mussio is a reliable source? Per WP:ORMEDIA it's fine to cite maps, but they have to be accurate and well-regarded like any other source.

I don't find it odd; some sentences are citing information from a single page whereas others are citing information from more than one page. I brought this source to the reliable sources noticeboard in 2023 because I was not sure if it would be considered a reliable source and there was no objection to it being used. Volcanoguy 15:55, 9 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I don't have a copy, but isn't it a single map being cited? It would make more sense as a single citation. As to its reliability, that does seem to be well-beyond a self-published source and I've found some use by others. Not an issue, thanks for linking to the old discussion. —Ganesha811 (talk) 19:23, 9 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No, each page is of a different map. Volcanoguy 19:36, 9 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough, I guess. —Ganesha811 (talk) 20:01, 9 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Why is Souther's name sometimes given as J.G., sometimes Jack, sometimes Jack G.? Please make consistent.
That's what the sources use. Is there a guideline saying the names of authors should be consistent? I think changing them would go against the sources. Volcanoguy 15:09, 9 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I think consistency is helpful to avoid confusing the reader. If he had changed his name, that would be one thing, but these are just variants. I don't think our citations have to follow the sources precisely in a case like this; better to be consistent and (as we have) link to our Wikipedia article on him. It makes it clearer that all these various sources are by the same author. —Ganesha811 (talk) 19:21, 9 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Let's see what other users think because I'm still not sure if the variants should be avoided. I could argue the author links avoid confusion because all of the variants link to the same person. Volcanoguy 22:34, 9 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Further comments to come.
was the source of an extensive lava flow that travelled down the northern side of the Big Raven Plateau towards Buckley Lake. isn't this redundant of the last two sentences of the prior paragraph?

Not yet addressed. —Ganesha811 (talk) 19:58, 10 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Modified this myself. —Ganesha811 (talk) 16:17, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Avoid duplicate links - Telegraph Creek and Buckley Lake are both linked twice in the lead. I recommend using User:Evad37/duplinks-alt to identify them.
Removed. Volcanoguy 21:07, 9 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
add "a man named" rather than just "a" before Hank Williams
Done. Volcanoguy 21:07, 9 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No luck determining the specific year or date of the accident?
No. Volcanoguy 21:07, 9 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
is thought to be due to rifting thought by the authors of that source or by geologists generally?
In general. Volcanoguy 21:07, 9 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Alpine Lakes Air and BC Yukon Air are the only air charter companies permitted to provide access to this area via aircraft add "As of 2025,"
Done. Volcanoguy 21:07, 9 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Is any information visible on how many climbers/visitors Eve Cone receives annually? How about Mount Edziza Provincial Park generally?
No. Volcanoguy 21:07, 9 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
As mentioned on the article for the provincial park, Edzerza and Edziza may be etymologically linked - may be worth mentioning on this page.
That's not important to the Eve Cone article is it? Volcanoguy 22:34, 9 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I think a footnote or parenthetical mention would be appropriate. It was a question that came up for me as I was reading the article. —Ganesha811 (talk) 19:56, 10 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Added "Johnny was buried on Mount Edziza; both Edzerza and Edziza may be etymologically linked." Volcanoguy 21:02, 10 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I assume the elevation given on the page and in the infobox are measuring from sea level - does any source give the cone's prominence?
I know bivouac.com and peakbagger.com give the cone's prominence but those websites fail WP:RS because they consist of user-generated content. Volcanoguy 22:34, 9 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If a RS with the peak's prominence can be found, that would be an improvement, but if it doesn't exist, nothing we can do about that. —Ganesha811 (talk) 19:57, 10 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Happy to support, whichever way the Souther cites end up. Overall, a well-written and interesting article with the right level of detail and jargon for the general reader. —Ganesha811 (talk) 16:17, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]