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The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was archived by Gog the Mild via FACBot (talk) 14 June 2025 [1].

Celestica (song)

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Nominator(s): Skyshiftertalk 23:16, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"Celestica" was the first Crystal Castles song to differ from their usual aggressive noisy sound. It is definitely one of the most, if not the most beautifully sounding track by the band, and also a fan favorite. Skyshiftertalk 23:16, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Aoba47

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Apologies in advance as I do not have the time to do a full review. I have included some comments based on my read-through of the article below to hopefully help with this FAC:

  • Everyone in the “Personnel” section should also be represented in the prose. For instance, Nilesh Patel is only mentioned in that section, but not discussed in the prose.
    • Done
  • Did the liner notes or any of the sources say where this song in particular was recorded, mixed, or mastered?
    • Unfortunately not.
      • Understandable. Thank you for checking. I have run into situations where the liner notes only credit the songwriters and producers so I understand there are situations where further information is just not available. Aoba47 (talk) 22:51, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • I would also include in the prose that the digital single and EP included other songs, “Insectica”, “Seed”, and “Mother Knows Best”.
    • Done
  • The infobox and the prose in the article say that Crystal Castles wrote the song, but the “Personnel” section only credits lyrics to Alice Glass. The infobox and the prose make it seem like Glass and Kath wrote the song together.
    • Fixed
  • The lead should have a sentence on who wrote and produced the song. I would also include the record companies in the prose of the lead.
    • Done
  • I would clarify when the BBC Radio 1 premiere happened as it is not immediately clear in the lead. Maybe something like the following: (Polydor Records released it as the album’s third song on April 16, 2010, a day after its premiere on BBC Radio 1). I only used Polydor here as the article says that is the record label that released the song as a single with the other labels releasing the other versions.
    • Done
  • I think that it would be better to have the music video have its own sentence in the lead.
    • Done
  • This part, Critics cited the song as a shift from Crystal Castles' usual sound, would benefit from further clarification. I would briefly clarify the duo’s “usual sound” as it is unclear in the current wording. The same goes for the audio caption.
    • Done
  • While I understand what you mean by this part in the lead, presenting a pop sound and resembling shoegaze, I think that it could be worded better.
    • Done
  • I would avoid passive tense as done in this part of the lead, It was considered one of the best songs of the year by NME, which could be reworded to something like the following, NME considered it one of the best songs of the year. Another instance of this is this part later in the article, and it was considered one of Crystal Castles' ten best songs until then by Beauchemin.
    • Done
  • I would encourage you to be mindful of repetition and to avoid having the same word for two sentences in a row. I noticed this example is the following, (when compared to their other songs) and (Larry Fitzmaurice of Pitchfork compared it), which has “compared” used for two sentences in a row.
    • Done
  • I would be consistent with how the possessive apostrophe is represented. In the lead, there is Crystal Castles', but in the article, there is Alice Glass's. Be consistent on whether s’ or s’s is used.
    • Done
  • I am not sure what this part, interacting in London's Abney Park Cemetery, means. What is meant by “interacting”?
    • Source says "scrapping about", and I wasn't sure how to make it more encyclopedic. I've edited it.
  • The last paragraph of the "Release and reception" section seems rather scattershot to me. I would refer to the following essay (WP:RECEPTION) to get ideas on how to better structure this paragraph.
    • This is always a hard point for me, but I've tried my best.
  • The duo have performed this song live, as cited in this article, so that information should be included in the article. I would recommend looking for further sources about this.
    • Done
  • Have you looked for any print publications about this song? I found the following sources on Newspapers.com: The Indepenent, The Bangor Daily News, and The Toronto Star. I would encourage you to look for further sources as I believe that are more even on just Newspapers.com to consider.
    • I did look on archive.org. I went on the Wikipedia Library and didn't find Newspapers.com, though I now discovered that I just had to apply for it, so now I wait. Thank you for the sources though!

Apologies again for not being able to do a full review, but I hope that this still helps. Best of luck with the FAC, and congrats on your recent FA promotion. Aoba47 (talk) 15:59, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Aoba47: Thank you! I have added some sources. Skyshiftertalk 16:27, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Joeyquism

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Hi! I've been browsing through the FACs intermittently for the past few weeks or so, and this one caught my eye. I love this song and figured it'd be a great way to get back into editing (or at least reviewing/helping out). Leaving a few thoughts below for now, but I'm aiming to leave a more thorough review by sometime tomorrow. Feel free to ping me if I haven't followed up by EOD. joeyquism (talk) 07:04, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Joeyquism: thank you! I have responded so far. Skyshiftertalk 16:27, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Skyshifter: Sorry for the extremely delayed reply! I quite honestly did not find anything else in need of much revision; the article is in great shape as it stands right now. Unfortunate that the interview can't be sourced, but nevertheless I am glad to support here. :) joeyquism (talk) 15:30, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Lead

  • I'm not entirely sure about the current phrasing of "The song was written by members Ethan Kath and Alice Glass, with Kath producing it". The "it" feels a bit clunky to me, though that may just be my inner pedant talking again. Feel free to ignore, but perhaps something like "The song was written by Ethan Kath and Alice Glass, with production handled by Kath" might read a bit more smoothly?
    • Done

Background

  • Would it be possible to briefly clarify what Celestica is in the sentence, "According to Kath, the track was inspired by a suicide at the Celestica factories in Canada…"? I think adding a short clause explaining the company's function could help provide useful context for readers. Also, I've been trying to track down the origin of this clip without much luck, which is a shame, as it would make for a compelling citation, especially if we could pinpoint the location of the factory and Celestica's role in the production process. If you happen to come across a source, that would be amazing, though of course no pressure if not.
    • Added clarification. I didn't know of that interview, that's really interesting! Unfortunately, I do think that finding its origin would be difficult.

Coordinator note

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This has been open for more than three weeks and has yet to pick up a support for promotion. If there isn't significant progress over the next few days, I'm afraid this is at the risk of archival. FrB.TG (talk) 12:07, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry, but while I realise this picked up a support six days ago, it seems to have stalled re progress towards a consensus to promote, so I am going to archive it. My boilerplate below on picking up reviewers may or may not be helpful for next time around. Bear in mind that the usual two-week hiatus will apply.

Reviewers are more happy to review articles from people whose name they see on other reviews (although I should say there is definitely no quid pro quo system on FAC). Reviewers are a scarce resource at FAC, unfortunately, and the more you put into the process, the more you are likely to get out. Personally, when browsing the list for an article to review, I am more likely to select one by an editor whom I recognise as a frequent reviewer. Critically reviewing other people's work may also have a beneficial impact on your own writing and your understanding of the FAC process.

Sometimes placing a polite neutrally phrased request on the talk pages of a few of the more frequent reviewers helps. Or on the talk pages of relevant Wikiprojects. Or of editors you know are interested in the topic of the nomination. Or who have contributed at PR, or assessed at GAN, or edited the article.

Gog the Mild (talk) 15:51, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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