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Your Articles for Creation review on Carter Rubin

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Ram Brustien’s article

Thanks for accepting Ram Brustien’s article. Perhaps you could provide some guidance on what to change so the cleanup template can be removed, or open a discussion on the talk page?

Adig-pt (talk) 08:15, 19 June 2025 (UTC)

@Adig-pt You need to ask the editor who placed that particular tag. 🇵🇸‍🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦‍🇵🇸 08:17, 19 June 2025 (UTC)

From looking at the history of the page I thought it was you. I am referring to the cleanup template, not the orphan template. Adig-pt (talk) 08:29, 19 June 2025 (UTC)

@Adig-pt see https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ram_Brustein&diff=1296256595&oldid=1296241240 🇵🇸‍🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦‍🇵🇸 08:39, 19 June 2025 (UTC)

@Adig-pt Ah. I simply flagged it as containing said contributions which embraces a cleanup message. You may not edit this article since you are a paid editor. You may request edits. 🇵🇸‍🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦‍🇵🇸 08:41, 19 June 2025 (UTC)

I see. Thanks for the fast and helpful reply! Adig-pt (talk) 08:47, 19 June 2025 (UTC)

Undeletion request for my page Lakhahi Raj

Check it again my page has been deleted unlawfully Bygonetime (talk) 11:40, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

@Bygonetime my page has been deleted unlawfully is a veiled legal threat. Unless you retract that immediately you are likely to be blocked. 🇵🇸‍🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦‍🇵🇸 11:42, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

i retract that Bygonetime (talk) 11:46, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

i request for undeletion of my page Bygonetime (talk) 11:49, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

it is a years old page no one has raised any issue Bygonetime (talk) 11:51, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

@Bygonetime I have no power to do this. Please visit WP:REFUND if it was a draft. 🇵🇸‍🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦‍🇵🇸 11:52, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

It was deleted as G3, so WP:DRV is probably the only option here. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:31, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

Kirk Savage

Why did you move this to a disambiguated title? There are no other articles with this name, so no disambiguation is needed at this time. - UtherSRG (talk) 16:14, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

@UtherSRG It has a shedload of irrelevant articles linking to it, and I could not figure out how to solve that 🇵🇸‍🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦‍🇵🇸 17:30, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

Resolved the remaining incoming links: [1][2][3]. Can likely occupy the basename now. Bobby Cohn 🍁 (talk) 17:53, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

Ah! Roger that. I hadn't checked there. - UtherSRG (talk) 18:16, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

Earl of Errol

Hi Tim, just wanted to reach out about the Earl of Errol article that you approved via AfC today [4] The article appears to have a few BLP issues which I will remove and post on the talk page (ie references Burke's Peerage and Debrett's as sources for the current holder, but it is just a link to the Wikipedia page, there is no way to independently verify this. Another reference went to a classified ad)
I wanted to bring this up to you as you might not be aware, there have been a number of issues around BLPs and sourcing with Baronage of Scotland and contributors to the project. [5] These issues are ongoing (current ANI) (previous ANI) with respect to questions about off-wiki coordination, etc.. [6] and User:Daniel_Plumber/sandbox/WikiProject_Baronage_of_Scotland

Nayyn (talk) 18:58, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

@Nayyn Good point well made. Thank you. 🇵🇸‍🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦‍🇵🇸 20:12, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

Spaceballs

Hi. I have been looking everywhere on the Internet for reliable and independent sources covering the demogroup Spaceballs and not just State of the Art and 9 Fingers. I have deleted references to the group from databases like Demozoo, Pouett and Amiga Music Preservation, and social media sites like Reddit, YouTube, LinkedIn, Facebook and Twitter, as well as mentions of IT'S ART Magazine since there is no formal publication of that to be found. Some now-removed Demozoo references for the list of Spaceballs members have been replaced with new references, such as for Useless/Egil Thomas Hansen, Travolta/Rune Svendsen, Magnar/Lizard, and Facet/Martijn van Meel. Alas, I could not find references solely for the other members and the group's demos in the "Selected productions" heading that are not databases. I included references to Spaceballs from books like Kunst, Code und Maschine: Die Ästhetik der Computer-Demoszene (2014) and Demoscene: The Amiga Years (2021) and a "Further reading" heading, and there is an Obligement.free article which seems to cover the group in full, rather than giving a passing mention. If the Demoscene: The Amiga Years references are allowed, would I have to use quotes in the references?

I am not sure if Spaceballs will ever have an article if I keep doing citation overkill and/or bombardment. I am finding this very difficult if there isn't enough sources for Spaceballs or significant coverage on it online. If this is not eligible for an article, would it work best as a heading for the article for the Spaceballs movie? Bladerunner09 (talk) 08:22, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

@Bladerunner09 Non-internet sources, well cited, are acceptable. WP:CITEKILL never is. The rule, an absolute rule, is no references passing WP:42 no article. Is it related to the movie? 🇵🇸‍🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦‍🇵🇸 08:27, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

The group named themselves after the movie. Bladerunner09 (talk) 09:31, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

@Bladerunner09 I suspect you will find the connection to be tenuous. WP:TEAHOUSE may give you a better answer, though 🇵🇸‍🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦‍🇵🇸 09:39, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

I asked the Teahouse about this, and GarethBaloney answered, "Non-internet sources (including the books) are much harder to verify, although they can still be used. The amount of references in general is pretty excessive, and that big list of current or former members could become a timeline. List of Whitesnake members#Timeline is one such example of a (music) group with many members. I do have to say that most of the ex-Spaceballs members are really not worth mentioning given how obscure the group already is." I am not sure how to create a "timeline" table for the members, though. Could you ask someone else to make it please? Bladerunner09 (talk) 20:54, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

@Bladerunner09 Honestly not sure whom to ask. I think it is only worth doing more work if you can prove notability. That should be your first task. 🇵🇸‍🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦‍🇵🇸 20:57, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

Draft: Matthew Lani

Thank you for reviewing the draft Wikipedia article on Matthew Lani. I appreciate the time and care you dedicate to upholding Wikipedia’s standards.

I respectfully request that you reconsider the decision to decline the article, as I believe the subject meets Wikipedia’s notability guidelines, particularly for biographies of living persons.

While the article touches on a widely publicised arrest, Matthew Lani is not only known for that incident. His case was covered extensively by national and international media, and it has sparked significant public discourse around digital identity fraud, the role of social media in public health misinformation, and government accountability. The impact of this case has gone beyond headlines—it has set a legal and social precedent in South Africa, particularly in relation to how state departments and regulatory bodies handle professional misrepresentation in the digital age.

Furthermore, the matter is still ongoing, with a civil case currently before the courts. This continued legal relevance, combined with the enduring media coverage and public debate, reflects a level of sustained notability and public interest beyond a one-time event.

Given the scale of online misinformation and the polarised commentary surrounding Matthew Lani, a centralised, neutral, and well-sourced Wikipedia article would serve the public interest by offering clarity and context based on verifiable sources. Ashleyashville (talk) 09:50, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

Draft:Matthew Lani Ashleyashville (talk) 10:27, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

@Ashleyashville Since Wikipedia may only record faithfully what is said in multiple, independent, reliable sources, we cannot allow a sort of 'beacon of truth' as a tool to offset the information. Were we to do so we would become a soapbox. In some ways the draft is a soapbox.

I suggest you may have written it WP:BACKWARDS, saying what oyu wish to say and then seeking references to fit. What is required is the seeking of references first, and then writing the draft from a storyboard based on what is said on the references. I think you will achieve a better draft that way.

Immediate resubmission is not prohibited but it biases the next reviewer against the resubmitting editor. That it ought not to is unimportant - reviewers are human beings, and react to actions. You might wish to revert that resubmission to seek to avoid prejudice against the draft. That's your business, not mine 🇵🇸‍🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦‍🇵🇸 10:34, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

Hi there, thank you for the earlier feedback. I’ve completely revised the draft based on your suggestions:

• Rewrote the article to follow a neutral tone

• Removed WP:SOAPBOX elements and avoided WP:BACKWARDS

• Structured the content around what is covered in reliable, independent sources

• Added more citations from major national media (News24, TimesLIVE, IOL, Sowetan, etc.)

• Clarified the notability based on national and international coverage, public debate, and ongoing legal action

I’d appreciate it if you could take another look when you have time. Thank you again for the guidance it helped a lot. Ashleyashville (talk) 11:35, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

@Ashleyashville too tired to give any meaningful input today. Sounds like you worked well and hard 🇵🇸‍🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦‍🇵🇸 16:58, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

Thank you. I’ll await and hopefully the draft gets approved. I’ll try till I get it right. Thank you again Ashleyashville (talk) 17:25, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

@Ashleyashville Assuming always that he passes WP:BIO you have almost certainly given it a great chance. You might find this essay helpful. It's one of many essays here on article creation 🇵🇸‍🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦‍🇵🇸 17:37, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

Thank you 197.184.89.193 (talk) 18:01, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

Thank you. I’ll take your advice 197.184.89.193 (talk) 10:35, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

Request on 18:29:26, 23 June 2025 for assistance on AfC submission by Apriltools

Apriltools (talk · contribs)
- Yehuda Duenyas (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Draft:Yehuda Duenyas (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Made changes and responded to your concerns, resubmitting.

Apriltools (talk) 18:29, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

@Apriltools Excellent. Thank you. I almost never review a draft twice. Your paid editing declaration on the draft talk page is sufficient as is your user page declaration.

We have a review drive on until the end of June, so any delay will be minimal, I hope. 🇵🇸‍🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦‍🇵🇸 18:45, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

Dorset & Wilts 2 Central

Hello. Many thanks for taking the time to review this league (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MaxPower2017#c-Timtrent-20250624081500-Your_submission_at_Articles_for_creation:_Dorset_&_Wilts_2_Central_(June_24))

I note your comments about "notability" in the sense that it is going to have a widespread audience, but it is notable to the teams involved and their local communities. The challenge I am struggling with is how this league is different from the 105 other community rugby leagues below the level of National 2 (level 4 of the pyramid)? This is the only league in the rugby league pyramid currently without its own page. I have worked tirelessly in the last few weeks to populate the English Rugby Union System page and this remains the only missing piece of the jigsaw. If you are able to show some discretion to allow the pyramid to be complete it would be very much appreciated.

Thank you in advance for your understanding MaxPower2017 (talk) 11:03, 24 June 2025 (UTC)MaxPower201711:03, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

@MaxPower2017 I may, of course, be wrong. However, I am but one editor failing to spot notability of these lower leagues. I am notable to those who love me, but I do not warrant an article. There are other reviewers, and I suggest a request for an opinion at WP:AFCHD might be useful.

That you have worked tirelessly is not in doubt. Thank you for doing so. 🇵🇸‍🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦‍🇵🇸 15:44, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

June Backlog Drive is almost over!

Hi! Thanks for participating in the Articles for Creation June Backlog Drive! We've done amazing work so far, dropping the backlog by more than 2000 drafts already. We have around 400 drafts outstanding, and we need your help to get that down to zero in 5 days. We can do this, but we need all hands on deck to make this happen. A list of the pending drafts can be found at WP:AFCSORT, where you can select submissions in your area of interest. Thank you so much for your work so far, and happy reviewing! – DreamRimmer ■ 01:35, 25 June 2025 (UTC)