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The Signpost: 9 April 2025

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Question from Theverify2025 (02:14, 11 April 2025)

Hi there

How do I create a page? --Theverify2025 (talk) 02:14, 11 April 2025 (UTC)

@Theverify2025, Welcome! Creating a new article from scratch is extremely challenging, and new editors are strongly recommended to spend a few months learning how Wikipedia works, by making improvements to some of our existing seven million articles before trying it. When you do decide to have a go at a new article, you are highly encouraged to read WP:Your first article. If you haven't already also check out WP:TUTORIAL; it's a lot of fun! Happy editing! — Qwerfjkltalk 14:29, 11 April 2025 (UTC)

Question from Subhashyadav120 (07:28, 11 April 2025)

Dear Sir and Madam, I am new to Wikipedia at this time and I am facing a lot of problems while working. Like, the data of most of the companies which are listed in the Indian stock market is updated every year and every three months. I update that data in the old posts of Wikipedia. My problem with this is that when I update the data, I have to give its reference from a big media channel or news. But many times I have seen that there is no relevant data on those big news websites. And if I take data from a small website and give its reference, then that link is removed from Wikipedia. I have been told that I am spamming due to which Wikipedia can suspend my account. Due to which I am not updating any post on Wikipedia right now --Subhashyadav120 (talk) 07:28, 11 April 2025 (UTC)

Subhashyadav120, you might have better luck using a primary source, where the data comes from directly. These should be more reliable. — Qwerfjkltalk 14:34, 11 April 2025 (UTC)

Question from Kwizerajean (02:26, 12 April 2025)

Hello, I want to publish my Bio on wikipedia --Kwizerajean (talk) 02:26, 12 April 2025 (UTC)

Question from Whynoms (00:16, 12 April 2025)

hello! I was just wondering, if I were to update some of my cities and their newest info, what would be appropriate on their infobox? for instance, mine just got an event center and I was wondering if that'd be alright to put up as an image. --Whynoms (talk) 00:16, 12 April 2025 (UTC)

@Whynoms, assuming the articles use {{infobox settlement}}, the documentation for using images can be found at Template:Infobox settlement#Images, nickname, motto. It suggests only using an image for the skyline. (If the infobox is differrent, check the documentation for that specific template.) — Qwerfjkltalk 10:03, 12 April 2025 (UTC)

Question from Kwizerajean (02:38, 12 April 2025)

I want to add this to Wikipedia

Kwizera Jean de Dieu ni umunyamakuru w’umunyarwanda, akaba n’umushinze w’urubuga rw’amakuru Umunsi.com. Azwiho uburambe mu itangazamakuru rishingiye ku bukangurambaga, umuco, n’imyidagaduro mu Rwanda.

Umwuga Kwizera yatangiye umwuga w’itangazamakuru mu 2014 akorera kuri Radiyo Umuhuza (ubu yitwa Isano Radio), aho yari Umwanditsi Mukuru kugeza mu 2016. Yakomereje kuri Akariho.rw nk’umwanditsi kuva 2016 kugeza 2018. Kuva mu 2018 kugeza mu 2023, yakoraga nk’umunyamakuru wa Inyarwanda.com, kimwe mu binyamakuru bizwi mu Rwanda.

Mu 2022, yashinze urubuga rw’amakuru Umunsi.com, rugamije gutanga inkuru zicukumbuye ku buzima, umuco, n’iterambere. Mu 2024, yinjiye mu kinyamakuru Imvaho Nshya nk’umunyamakuru mu Ntara y’Iburengerazuba.

Amashuri Kwizera yize Uburezi mu mashuri yisumbuye kuri TTC Gacuba II i Rubavu. Yakomereje muri Kaminuza aho yasoje icyiciro cya kabiri mu Ishami ry’Indimi. --Kwizerajean (talk) 02:38, 12 April 2025 (UTC)

I'm not the person you're supposed to be hearing from but it sounds you may have better luck on Rwandan Wikipedia, rw.wikipedia.org Folsom WikiDude (talk) 05:31, 12 April 2025 (UTC)
Wait for Qwerfjkl to confirm though, they're smarter than me. Folsom WikiDude (talk) 05:32, 12 April 2025 (UTC)
Kwizerajean, Folsom WikiDude is correct in that you will need to use the Rwandan Wikipedia. In addition, you probably shouldn't write an autobiography. — Qwerfjkltalk 10:08, 12 April 2025 (UTC)

Question from Abdi saakir1 (14:55, 10 April 2025)

Hi Qwerfjkl, i would like to ask you about one issue!. i can not edit or add a particular article on Wikipedia Some articles are locked and they contain outdated informations or old pictures, so i request if you can change or allow me to do --Abdi saakir1 (talk) 14:55, 10 April 2025 (UTC)

Abdi saakir1, you can typically make an edit request for such articles. What are the specific changes on articles you want to make? — Qwerfjkltalk 14:57, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
i did request but no response, the Article is about a Town which they added some misinformations and old images, so i wanted to edit and or add New representative images from (Wikipedia common) for the Town and Latest updates Abdi saakir1 (talk) 15:05, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
I can see here and here you added a section, but you didn't elaborate on what exactly you wanted changed. Remember that everyone on Wikipedia is a volunteer - they don't want to have to guess at what you want. I recommend you follow the steps at Wikipedia:Edit requests#Making requests and in particular the Edit Request Wizard (which you can also get to from my first link). Hope this helps. Qwerfjkltalk 14:28, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
v Abdi saakir1 (talk) 15:40, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
Abdi saakir1, Talk:Las Anod (Diff ~1285080148) is not going to get anything done. You need to actually explain what you want changed and why. — Qwerfjkltalk 09:57, 12 April 2025 (UTC)
it's been the second time i added an edit request to the talk page of Las Anod, both times i clearly listed all my points and what i want to be changed and what i want to be replaced, i don't know what kind of strict rules do Wikipedia use just for a simple request.! Abdi saakir1 (talk) 11:55, 12 April 2025 (UTC)
@Abdi saakir1, the entire content of your request was "b". Qwerfjkltalk 15:20, 12 April 2025 (UTC)
Abdi saakir1 (talk) 15:35, 12 April 2025 (UTC)

Question from Folsom WikiDude (01:52, 12 April 2025)

Do you know why Draft:Sutter Middle School got 3 feedbacks in 2 days but then its been quiet for the past week? (again sry if bad question im new & bad) --Folsom WikiDude (talk) 01:52, 12 April 2025 (UTC)

I should add, I know it says it can take months, but the previous responses were very fast. Is it just good luck running up? Sorry, I have been waiting for what feels like a while (it's not that long), and I feel impatient even though I know I shouldn't be. I'm really sorry for taking up your time. Folsom WikiDude (talk) 05:27, 12 April 2025 (UTC)

Folsom WikiDude, yes, it may just be luck. Drafts are reviewed in no particular order. That said, seeing a draft that has been declined multiple times for the same reason can be off putting to reviewers - you might have better luck if you make more of an effort to address the feedback, instead of resubmitting. — Qwerfjkltalk 10:05, 12 April 2025 (UTC)
Okay, thanks. I'll try and work on finding more notable sources in the future. Folsom WikiDude (talk) 18:35, 12 April 2025 (UTC)

Guild of Copy Editors April 2025 Newsletter

Guild of Copy Editors April 2025 Newsletter

Hello and welcome to the April 2025 newsletter, a quarterly digest of Guild activities since December. Don't forget you can unsubscribe at any time; see below. We extend a warm welcome to all of our new members. We wish you all happy copy-editing.

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Drive: 55 editors signed up for our January Backlog Elimination Drive 33 claimed at least one copy-edit and copy-edited 611,404 words in 237 articles. Barnstars awarded are here.

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Incorrect banner shell added by your bot

Special:Permalink/1166456713. MinervaNeue (talk) 16:53, 14 April 2025 (UTC)

@MinervaNeue, feel free to fix the bot's edit. — Qwerfjkltalk 17:55, 14 April 2025 (UTC)

Tech News: 2025-16

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Weekly highlight

  • Later this week, the default thumbnail size will be increased from 220px to 250px. This changes how pages are shown in all wikis and has been requested by some communities for many years, but wasn't previously possible due to technical limitations. [1]
  • File thumbnails are now stored in discrete sizes. If a page specifies a thumbnail size that's not among the standard sizes (20, 40, 60, 120, 250, 330, 500, 960), then MediaWiki will pick the closest larger thumbnail size but will tell the browser to downscale it to the requested size. In these cases, nothing will change visually but users might load slightly larger images. If it doesn't matter which thumbnail size is used in a page, please pick one of the standard sizes to avoid the extra in-browser down-scaling step. [2][3]

Updates for editors

  • The Wikimedia Foundation are working on a system called Edge Uniques which will enable A/B testing, help protect against Distributed denial-of-service attacks (DDoS attacks), and make it easier to understand how many visitors the Wikimedia sites have. This is so that they can more efficiently build tools which help readers, and make it easier for readers to find what they are looking for.
  • To improve security for users, a small percentage of logins will now require that the account owner input a one-time password emailed to their account. It is recommended that you check that the email address on your account is set correctly, and that it has been confirmed, and that you have an email set for this purpose. [4]
  • "Are you interested in taking a short survey to improve tools used for reviewing or reverting edits on your Wiki?" This question will be asked at 7 wikis starting next week, on Recent Changes and Watchlist pages. The Moderator Tools team wants to know more about activities that involve looking at new edits made to your Wikimedia project, and determining whether they adhere to your project's policies.
  • On April 15, the full Wikidata graph will no longer be supported on query.wikidata.org. After this date, scholarly articles will be available through query-scholarly.wikidata.org, while the rest of the data hosted on Wikidata will be available through the query.wikidata.org endpoint. This is part of the scheduled split of the Wikidata Graph, which was announced in September 2024. More information is available on Wikidata.
  • The latest quarterly Wikimedia Apps Newsletter is now available. It covers updates, experiments, and improvements made to the Wikipedia mobile apps.
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Updates for technical contributors

  • The latest quarterly Technical Community Newsletter is now available. This edition includes: an invitation for tool maintainers to attend the Toolforge UI Community Feedback Session on April 15th; recent community metrics; and recent technical blog posts.
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Qwerfjkl (bot) – Michigan_to_the_natty

Page: Detroit_Red_Wings

Diff: Special:Diff/1284991432

Comment/question:

Michigan to the natty (talk) 22:10, 15 April 2025 (UTC)

@Michigan to the natty, you left |title= blank. — Qwerfjkltalk 11:39, 16 April 2025 (UTC)

Ukraine's Cultural Diplomacy Month 2025: Invitation

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Hello, dear Wikipedians!

Wikimedia Ukraine, in cooperation with the MFA of Ukraine and Ukrainian Institute, has launched the fifth edition of writing challenge "Ukraine's Cultural Diplomacy Month", which lasts from 14th April until 16th May 2025. The campaign is dedicated to famous Ukrainian artists of cinema, music, literature, architecture, design, and cultural phenomena of Ukraine that are now part of world heritage. We accept contributions in every language!

The most active contesters will receive prizes.

If you are interested in coordinating long-term community engagement for the campaign and becoming a local ambassador, we would love to hear from you! Please let us know your interest.

We invite you to take part and help us improve the coverage of Ukrainian culture on Wikipedia in your language! Also, we plan to set up a banner to notify users of the possibility to participate in such a challenge! OlesiaLukaniuk (WMUA) (talk)

16:11, 16 April 2025 (UTC)

Duplicate MassMessages

Hi Qwerfjkl! Hope you are having a nice weekend :)

As you can probably tell, something is off with Qwerfjkl (bot) (BRFA · contribs · actions log · block log · flag log · user rights) appears to be a little trigger-happy with sending out mass messages for posts at WP:VPM (see MassMessage log). I've gotten two copies of Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous)/Archive 81#Final proposed modifications to the Universal Code of Conduct Enforcement Guidelines and U4C Charter now posted, and I also got two copies of Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous)/Archive 81#Universal Code of Conduct annual review: provide your comments on the UCoC and Enforcement Guidelines. Would you be able to investigate? Best, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 20:56, 5 April 2025 (UTC)

HouseBlaster, this is unfortunately a bug I know of (see User talk:Qwerfjkl/Archive 64#Bot sending the same message over and over again) - it's due to a bug in EventStreams, I think. I'll have a shot at fixing it tomorrow. — Qwerfjkltalk 21:20, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
Thanks, as always, Qwerfjkl :) HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 21:23, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
@HouseBlaster, I have now given a shot at fixing this (by logging all the messages it sends and then checking that list before sending a message). Let me know if the issue persists (or if the bot stops working at all). — Qwerfjkltalk 10:16, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
Thank you, Qwerfjkl! I'll let you know if it is working :) HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 17:44, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
Well, seems to be at least not entirely broken. — Qwerfjkltalk 19:24, 16 April 2025 (UTC)

Vote now on the revised UCoC Enforcement Guidelines and U4C Charter

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The Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) is a global group dedicated to providing an equitable and consistent implementation of the UCoC. This annual review of the EG and Charter was planned and implemented by the U4C. Further information will be provided in the coming months about the review of the UCoC itself. For more information and the responsibilities of the U4C, you may review the U4C Charter.

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Tech News: 2025-17

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Updates for editors

  • Wikifunctions is now integrated with Dagbani Wikipedia since April 15. It is the first project that will be able to call functions from Wikifunctions and integrate them in articles. A function is something that takes one or more inputs and transforms them into a desired output, such as adding up two numbers, converting miles into metres, calculating how much time has passed since an event, or declining a word into a case. Wikifunctions will allow users to do that through a simple call of a stable and global function, rather than via a local template. [5]
  • A new type of lint error has been created: Empty headings (documentation). The Linter extension's purpose is to identify wikitext patterns that must or can be fixed in pages and provide some guidance about what the problems are with those patterns and how to fix them. [6]
  • Recurrent item View all 37 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week.

Updates for technical contributors

  • Following its publication on HuggingFace, the "Structured Contents" dataset, developed by Wikimedia Enterprise, is now also available on Kaggle. This Beta initiative is focused on making Wikimedia data more machine-readable for high-volume reusers. They are releasing this beta version in a location that open dataset communities already use, in order to seek feedback, to help improve the product for a future wider release. You can read more about the overall Structured Contents project, and about the first release that's freely usable.
  • There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Meetings and events

  • The Editing and Machine Learning Teams invite interested volunteers to a video meeting to discuss Peacock check, which is the latest Edit check that will detect "peacock" or "overly-promotional" or "non-neutral" language whilst an editor is typing. Editors who work with newcomers, or help to fix this kind of writing, or are interested in how we use artificial intelligence in our projects are encouraged to attend. The meeting will be on April 28, 2025 at 18:00–19:00 UTC and hosted on Zoom.

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Qwerfjkl (bot) – Singaporedeep

Page: Guillermo_Bazan

Diff: Special:Diff/1286646567

Comment/question: I made some modifications on the profile, let me know whether/where I made a mistake, if any. The information entered is the right one.


Singaporedeep (talk) 05:13, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

@Singaporedeep, for the first reference you added <ref>{{Cite web |url=https://ifim.nus.edu.sg/people/guillermo-carlos-bazan/ |access-date=2025-04-21 |website=ifim.nus.edu.sg}}</ref>, you ommitted |title=. — Qwerfjkltalk 08:46, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

Question from Des George (10:17, 22 April 2025)

I wish to add some photos to this page

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MV_Tyrronall --Des George (talk) 10:17, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

@Des George, you did add the images. They are all right-justified so float down, you can see them if you scroll down. You might want to add a gallery section (see Help:Pictures#Galleries) to improve the layout. — Qwerfjkltalk 16:46, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

Question from Somyasilcharkhandelwal (09:45, 23 April 2025)

Hello, I'm somya, I want to publish an article on type foundry --Somyasilcharkhandelwal (talk) 09:45, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

@Somyasilcharkhandelwal, Welcome! Creating a new article from scratch is extremely challenging, and new editors are strongly recommended to spend a few months learning how Wikipedia works, by making improvements to some of our existing seven million articles before trying it. When you do decide to have a go at a new article, you are highly encouraged to read WP:Your first article. If you haven't already also check out WP:TUTORIAL; it's a lot of fun! Happy editing! — Qwerfjkltalk 15:54, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

New pages patrol May 2025 Backlog drive

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Question from Syrianauthor1 (12:25, 4 April 2025)

hello, I have posted an article about a well known News outlet in Syria and it was deleted, could i know what the issue is? --Syrianauthor1 (talk) 12:25, 4 April 2025 (UTC)

Syrianauthor1, you don't appear to have created any articles on this account. Please tell me the name of the article. — Qwerfjkltalk 11:02, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
the article called هاشتاغ الإخبارية Syrianauthor1 (talk) 11:04, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
Syrianauthor1, I assume you mean w:ar:هاشتاغ الإخبارية (on the Arabic wiki). I can't help you much with other-language Wikipedia, but the page I linked gives the deletion reason. According to a machine translation, it is because the subject is not notable. If you want further help, you are welcome to ask me, but you will probably get more informed answers if you ask on the Arabic Wikipedia. — Qwerfjkltalk 11:14, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
im sorry maybe someone deleted it Lesedi Mofokeng (talk) 05:22, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

Tech News: 2025-18

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Updates for editors

  • Event organizers who host collaborative activities on multiple wikis, including Bengali, Japanese, and Korean Wikipedias, will have access to the CampaignEvents extension this week. Also, admins in the Wikipedia where the extension is enabled will automatically be granted the event organizer right soon. They won't have to manually grant themselves the right before they can manage events as requested by a community.
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Updates for technical contributors

  • The release of the next major version of Codex, the design system for Wikimedia, is scheduled for 29 April 2025. Technical editors will have access to the release by the week of 5 May 2025. This update will include a number of breaking changes and minor visual changes. Instructions on handling the breaking and visual changes are documented on this page. Pre-release testing is reported in T386298, with post-release issues tracked in T392379 and T392390.
  • Users of Wiki Replicas will notice that the database views of ipblocks, ipblocks_ipindex, and ipblocks_compat are now deprecated. Users can query the block and block_target new views that mirror the new tables in the production database instead. The deprecated views will be removed entirely from Wiki Replicas in June, 2025.
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Vote on proposed modifications to the UCoC Enforcement Guidelines and U4C Charter

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Question from Somyasilcharkhandelwal (14:01, 29 April 2025)

Hello, i just wrote an article in sand box and published it, can you help me making sure it gets published please? --Somyasilcharkhandelwal (talk) 14:01, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

Somyasilcharkhandelwal, please read WP:NCORP and ensure both that the subject of the article passes those guidelines, and that the draft shows that it does. — Qwerfjkltalk 16:41, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

Question from Wikiusagi75 (18:56, 29 April 2025)

I have published a page in my sandbox. What is the next step to getting it on Wikipedia? --Wikiusagi75 (talk) 18:56, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

Wikiusagi75, it's already been moved to an article (see Special:Diff/1287998458). — Qwerfjkltalk 15:38, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
Thank you. 202.239.224.212 (talk) 17:25, 30 April 2025 (UTC)

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Question from AHPCara (13:45, 3 May 2025)

Hello- I am a newbie and hope to become skilled enough to correctly write biographies of noted aviators. I'm the archivist at an aviation museum. My question is: I have access to a great deal of unpublished military records. For example- Aviators' DD-214, copies of their military award citations and some audio/digital biographical records collected from either the aviator or their family. How do I appropriately use and cite them? I have other questions, but I'll wait to see your first response. Thank you for mentoring me! --AHPCara (talk) 13:45, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

AHPCara, I'm afraid my knowledge in this area is limited; I suggest you ask at the Teahouse. — Qwerfjkltalk 19:26, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

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Question from AHPCara (13:45, 3 May 2025)

Hello- I am a newbie and hope to become skilled enough to correctly write biographies of noted aviators. I'm the archivist at an aviation museum. My question is: I have access to a great deal of unpublished military records. For example- Aviators' DD-214, copies of their military award citations and some audio/digital biographical records collected from either the aviator or their family. How do I appropriately use and cite them? I have other questions, but I'll wait to see your first response. Thank you for mentoring me! --AHPCara (talk) 13:45, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

AHPCara, I'm afraid my knowledge in this area is limited; I suggest you ask at the Teahouse. — Qwerfjkltalk 19:26, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

Question from Harry5672 (15:38, 2 May 2025)

Hello, I am an aspiring author, how can my articles become famous. --Harry5672 (talk) 15:38, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

Time and practice. Good luck. — Qwerfjkltalk 16:47, 4 May 2025 (UTC)

Tech News: 2025-19

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Weekly highlight

Updates for editors

  • For wikis that have the CampaignEvents extension enabled, two new feature improvements have been released:
    • Admins can now choose which namespaces are permitted for Event Registration via Community Configuration (documentation). The default setup is for event registration to be permitted in the Event namespace, but other namespaces (such as the project namespace or WikiProject namespace) can now be added. With this change, communities like WikiProjects can now more easily use Event Registration for their collaborative activities.
    • Editors can now transclude the Collaboration List on a wiki page (documentation). The Collaboration List is an automated list of events and WikiProjects on the wikis, accessed via Special:AllEvents (example). Now, the Collaboration List can be added to all sorts of wiki pages, such as: a wiki mainpage, a WikiProject page, an affiliate page, an event page, or even a user page.
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Updates for technical contributors

  • Developers who use the moment library in gadgets and user scripts should revise their code to use alternatives like the Intl library or the new mediawiki.DateFormatter library. The moment library has been deprecated and will begin to log messages in the developer console. You can see a global search for current uses, and ask related questions in this Phabricator task.
  • Developers who maintain a tool that queries the Wikidata term store tables (wbt_*) need to update their code to connect to a separate database cluster. These tables are being split into a separate database cluster. Tools that query those tables via the wiki replicas must be adapted to connect to the new cluster instead. Documentation and related links are available. [7]
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Question from Bobbyyadavindia on User:Bobbyyadavindia/sandbox (04:26, 8 May 2025)

Which source is perfect --Boby Yadav (talk) 04:26, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

Bobbyyadavindia, can you clarify what you mean? Or else, see WP:Reliable sources. — Qwerfjkltalk 16:37, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

Ask my mentor a question

Can an editor be good if they rarely add sources and just prefer other types of edits?

User:Iwillpeeonadime User talk:Iwillpeeonadime

@Iwillpeeonadime, whatever edits you make are good so long as they are constructive. — Qwerfjkltalk 16:38, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

Question from Mario662629 (21:44, 5 May 2025)

Uhh... I checked my abuse log and saw some edit filters triggered. One of them was a "possible template vandalism" that was simply me trying, but failing to, update a template in a template sandbox, leading to me reverting it. Also, I'm planning to post an article on GDI malwares, and although they are popular on YouTube, there are not many articles on them. I have a draft for now. --Mario662629 (talk) 21:44, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

Mario662629, so... what is your question? — Qwerfjkltalk 06:53, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
I'm worried to post my article on GDI malware because of the reasons above. I said that, although they are popular, there are not many articles on them. Here's the link to the draft: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:GDI_malware Mario662629 (talk) 12:02, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
Mario662629, you may want to have a look at Wikipedia:Notability (software) and make sure it passes, or else you will be wasting your time on the draft. None of your sources are reliable currently. — Qwerfjkltalk 16:38, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
There are not many sources. The only sources I could find for these GDI malwares include:
  • The wiki page listed in the draft (https://holdon.fandom.com/wiki/GDI_Malware), including the links in that leading to pages for further malwares
  • The GitHub profiles of the creators and the malwares
  • The YouTube videos of the malwares
Mario662629 (talk) 16:36, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
Mario662629, I am afraid if you cannot find decent sources, you cannot write an article about it. — Qwerfjkltalk 16:55, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
  • The article has a notability warning placed on it:
  • The article has lots of [citation needed] messages.
  • The article was tagged with several WikiProjects tags.
Mario662629 (talk) 17:19, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
@Qwerfjkl: Please read the reply above to continue helping me about this article; which is specifically being made to get these popular, fan-made malwares to have good descriptions on Google and/or for ChatGPT to give accurate info about them (e.g. trichloromethane.exe was made before ChatGPT's last knowledge update, but it still gives inaccurate info about it). The draft has notices on it and was tagged with several WikiProjects tags. Mario662629 (talk) 14:17, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
Mario662629, notices are for articles, whereas it is still a draft. I, personally, would suggest abandoning the article unless you can find evidence it is notable. — Qwerfjkltalk 16:48, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

Question from Bobbyyadavindia (16:41, 8 May 2025)

For articles trusted source like --Boby Yadav (talk) 16:41, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

Bobbyyadavindia, what is your question? — Qwerfjkltalk 16:48, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
Trusted source for wikipedia articls like add info and add source for trusted info Boby Yadav (talk) 16:52, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
Bobbyyadavindia, see WP:Reliable sources. Though if you're not proficient in English, you might want to hold of editing articles. — Qwerfjkltalk 16:54, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
Can articles be written only in Hindi? Boby Yadav (talk) 16:56, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
Can articas be written only in english Boby Yadav (talk) 16:57, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
Bobbyyadavindia, you can edit the Hindi Wikipedia https://hi.wikipedia.org — Qwerfjkltalk 17:04, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
Ok thank you Boby Yadav (talk) 17:05, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

Question from FFRI1684 (13:08, 8 May 2025)

Hey there Mentor :) I have for years now been irked by edits to the General Nathanael Greene page done 12/22/2018 [8] and finally am able to give some focus to this and figure out how to make proper edits in Wikipedia... Wondering if you have any advice for how to best rectify this slew of one source edits posted on one particular day? In particular, wondering which would be easier: (A) Reverting to the pre-12/22/18 version then adding edits made since by others? OR (B) Using current version, editing single source footnotes to add better citations? OR (C) Some other approach? Thanks for any advice you can give! --FFRI1684 (talk) 13:08, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

FFRI1684, there's nothing wrong per se with relying on a single source (particularly if the article had no sources before), but it will tend to a more biased article. I would suggest adding more citations (you don't need to remove the single source, particularly if you can verify it backs up what it's used as reference for). — Qwerfjkltalk 16:45, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
Thanks for the advice :) will see how things evolve.... 68.0.206.86 (talk) 02:03, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

Question from 1chrysalis (19:01, 8 May 2025)

Good afternoon. Quick question. If I edit an article about a word, do I get credit for it? --1chrysalis (talk) 19:01, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

1chrysalis, all (most) edits on Wikipedia are licensed under the CC-BY-SA license, so there is a legal obligation to credit you if something you have edited is used elsewhere, unless you waive copyright. — Qwerfjkltalk 15:43, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

Question from Reign Evert (20:24, 8 May 2025)

Why didn't my edited page get published --Reign Evert (talk) 20:24, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

Reign Evert, you have not created any pages on this account, so I have no idea what you are referring to. — Qwerfjkltalk 15:43, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

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Deletion discussion about Elsie Lovelock

Hello Qwerfjkl, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia.

While your contributions are appreciated, I wanted to let you know that I've started a discussion about whether an article that you created, Elsie Lovelock, should be deleted, as I am not sure that it is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia in its current form. Your comments are welcome at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Elsie Lovelock.

Deletion discussions usually run for seven days and are not votes. Our guide about effectively contributing to such discussions is worth a read. The most common issue in these discussions is notability, but it's not the only aspect that may be discussed; read the nomination and any other comments carefully before you contribute to the discussion. Last but not least, you are highly encouraged to continue improving the article; just be sure not to remove the tag about the deletion nomination from the top.

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Clarityfiend (talk) 08:46, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

Clarityfiend, I made the redirect, but the article was made with Elsie Lovelock (Diff ~1150766051). — Qwerfjkltalk 11:38, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
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