User talk:Prakashs27

Nomination for deletion of Template:Country data Bengal Sultanate

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Reign of Nongda Lairen Pakhangba

Prakash, please stop making disruptive edits to Wikipedia articles, especially those created by people from the region being discussed. If you are unfamiliar with the topic, it is not appropriate to change important details. For example, in the article about the reign of Nongda Lairen Pakhangba, you changed the year from 154 CE to 54 CE, which could be offensive to people from Manipur. Traditional sources are often the most reliable in such contexts, and non-traditional sources should not be inserted simply based on personal preference. Please refrain from such actions, or I will be compelled to report your behavior to the appropriate article creator. Victor Ningthemcha (talk) 09:45, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

You cannot simply replace dates verified by traditional local sources from Manipur with non-traditional ones based on personal preference. If you disagree, it's better to refrain from changing them. And if you’re so determined to dismiss traditional sources, then go ahead and edit the dates on the List of Manipuri kings too—because clearly, your preference for non-Manipuri sources would lead to complete historical confusion there too. Victor Ningthemcha (talk) 09:52, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Hello User:Victor Ningthemcha,

I would like to clarify some things regarding the recent edits to the page Nongdā Lāiren Pākhangbā and your comments.

First off, you stated in the edit summary of this edit: “Please don’t remove the paragraphs that has been verified from local sources and please stop vandalising and doing whatever you want and I think you edited it from 154 AD to 54 AD because you think Suljit Mukherjee is right as he is not from Manipur. Please stop this before you make any people from Manipur offended.”

At no point were my edits intended to be disruptive, dismissive, or offensive to Manipuri culture. More importantly, I did not choose or rely on Sujit Mukherjee’s source because he is “not from Manipur.” That is a serious assumption of bad faith, and it goes directly against Wikipedia’s policy of assuming good faith (see WP:AGF).

To be precise regarding the timeline: the infobox before my edit only said “33 AD”. I updated it to “33–54 CE”, based on what Mukherjee (who was already cited) had stated. I didn’t remove any traditional date, because a full one wasn’t in the infobox in the first place. Additionally, it is important to remember that no one editor owns any article, regardless of whether they created it or not (see WP:OWN).

You also stated in this current talk page discussion:

“Traditional sources are often the most reliable in such contexts, and non-traditional sources should not be inserted simply based on personal preference”. The keyword here is “often”, not “always", which means that traditional sources still need to be evaluated with the same standards as any other, especially when they propose historically implausible claims. A 121-year reign (from 33 to 154 CE) is far beyond biological reality. The oldest verified human lived to 122, and the idea of someone ruling for that entire time, particularly as a dynasty's founder, is completely implausible from a modern historical perspective.

If a Meitei scholar had offered a realistic range grounded in academic consensus, I would have gladly used it. But Wikipedia relies on verifiability, reliable sources, and neutrality. It does not rely on emotional or regional allegiance. Dismissing a source purely because the author isn’t from Manipur undermines these principles.

Lastly, the accusation that I’m vandalizing or editing based on regional bias is untrue and unfounded. My edit did not remove or replace traditional content, it just clarified the date range based on a source that was already present. The tone and threats in your messages could be considered uncivil (see WP:CIVIL). We shouldn't turn this misunderstanding into hostility when it could easily be a collaborative discussion.

Your broader contributions to articles on Manipuri culture and history are commendable, and I have zero intention of opposing them. However, let's aim to apply Wikipedia’s core policies consistently, without making personal assumptions.

Side note: My username is User:Prakashs27, but Prakash is not my actual name. Prakashs27 (talk) 17:36, 30 June 2025 (UTC)

I know that I actually got too far on saying that but, I know your intention, A human cannot live more than that but, this is how the Cheitharol Kumbaba: The royal chronicle of Manipur intends it. If we can't agree on something, it's better not to put the reign dates on the Infobox Victor Ningthemcha (talk) 01:15, 1 July 2025 (UTC)

Saying of which, he is regarded as an incarnation of the God Pakhangba in Meitei mythology so, it's better not to put 154 or 54 AD in the infobox but put it in a heading section instead, giving our beliefs Victor Ningthemcha (talk) 01:18, 1 July 2025 (UTC)

And I also said "because he is not from Manipur" because some scholars from outside of Manipur tried to ruin the history and culture of the Meitei people and connecting our culture into the Mahabharata, so that's why I got mad. Sorry if I made you think like it was a threat. But also, if we put 54 AD in the infobox, then the whole reign of kings would be messed up so, that's why Victor Ningthemcha (talk) 01:25, 1 July 2025 (UTC)

Also, Kings in Manipur lived much longer than we think. It is even confirmed that Nongda Lairen Pakhangba ruled for more than 120 years in Kangla Palace, the capital site of ancient Manipur, by the British too and the Cheitharol Kumbaba and almost every source that mentions the Kings of Manipur. The reason is that they are considered incarnations of gods or lived much longer than we expect. But due to the lack of historical context about the regions outside Manipur, and since we did not spread our culture to preserve it for ourselves, many people don't know. Victor Ningthemcha (talk) 09:31, 1 July 2025 (UTC)

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