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Subject: Jagran Josh Inconsistency & Repeated Disruption by Gogo Pasha

Hello,

I’d like to highlight two major issues on the Good Bad Ugly page:

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1. Jagran Josh as a Source

It's not about WP:ICTFSOURCES. Jagran Josh has published multiple contradictory box office figures for the same film Good Bad Ugly:- • ₹245 cr – https://www.jagran.com/entertainment/web-series-review-good-bad-ugly-ott-release-when-and-where-to-watch-ajith-kumar-highest-grossing-movie-23930107.html • Other reports: ₹246 cr, ₹300 cr

These inconsistencies make Jagran Josh unreliable for box office claims. Similar issue occurred with India Today on Retro box office, where it was removed for contradictory figures

2. User Disruption: Gogo Pasha

The user Gogo has history of repeatedly removing ICTF source like Dina Thanthi specifically only for Good Bad Ugly.

The user has deleted multiple prior warnings for vandalism on their talk page history and continues involving in unconstructive edits

This appears agenda-driven, aiming to force a figure. Hatimm Tai (talk) 11:04, 21 July 2025 (UTC)

@Hatimm Tai, regardless you should discuss it on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Film/Indian cinema task force first, before removing it. Vestrian24Bio 13:23, 21 July 2025 (UTC)

"Hi @Vestrian24Bio, the issue is that user Gogo Pasha added this content only yesterday without any prior discussion on the talk page, seemingly to promote a specific agenda. You can verify this by checking their recent edit history, which reflects a deliberate, non-consensual addition. My edit was simply a reversion of that unconstructive change to maintain accuracy and consistency." Hatimm Tai (talk) 15:15, 21 July 2025 (UTC)

Hi Vestrian24Bio, The issue is that user Gogo Pasha added this content only yesterday without any prior discussion on the talk page, seemingly to promote a specific agenda. You can verify this by checking their recent edit history, which reflects a deliberate, non-consensual addition. My edit was simply a reversion of that unconstructive change to maintain accuracy and consistency." Hatimm Tai (talk) 15:20, 21 July 2025 (UTC)

@Hatimm Tai Jagaran Josh is an accepted reliable source and so is Hindustan Times. There's no need for consensus or discussion to add them. You're the one seem to be editing with a single-purpose account to "promote a specific agenda" here. Vestrian24Bio 16:24, 21 July 2025 (UTC)

Absolutely not. The only reason Jagran Josh was removed is due to multiple contradictory reports (₹179 cr, ₹245 cr, ₹246 cr, ₹300 cr), which reduces reliability for this claim per WP:RS and WP:DUE. Additionally, the currently cited Jagran Josh article merely reflects an old Wikipedia range rather than independent reporting. Including such a source would mislead readers and violate neutrality.

Hindustan Times also published an article stating Good Bad Ugly crossed ₹200 cr worldwide within two weeks, along with several other contradictory reports.Absolutely not bro . The only reason Jagran Josh was removed is due to multiple contradictory reports (₹179 cr, ₹245 cr, ₹246 cr, ₹300 cr), which reduces reliability for this claim per WP:RS and WP:DUE. Additionally, the article which is cited merely reflects an old Wikipedia range rather than independent reporting. Including such a source would mislead readers and violate neutrality. Hatimm Tai (talk) 16:37, 21 July 2025 (UTC)

@User:Vestrian24Bio – The removal of Jagran Josh is not arbitrary. The issue is contradictory reporting: Jagran Josh has published multiple inconsistent figures for Good Bad Ugly (₹179 cr, ₹245 cr, ₹246 cr, ₹300 cr), which undermines reliability for this claim per WP:RS and WP:DUE.

Moreover, the article being used simply mirrors an old Wikipedia range, not independent reporting. Please validate that article , it's very clear . Hatimm Tai (talk) 16:39, 21 July 2025 (UTC)

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You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Good Bad Ugly. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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That's fine. Vestrian24Bio 15:20, 23 July 2025 (UTC)

Good Bad Ugly

Hi @Vestrian24Bio, I see you have reverted my edits in Good Bad Ugly. I made the edit changes based on reliable sources in WP:ICTFSOURCES. According to this list, Jagran Josh is not a part of the reliable sources list, thats why I removed it. What are your thoughts on this? Tonyy Starkk (talk) 05:08, 24 July 2025 (UTC)

@Tonyy Starkk: ICTFSOURCES is especially for which sources to be not used. Sources can't be removed just because it's not listed there. To be removed or considered unreliable it should be discussed at WP:RSN first. Vestrian24Bio 09:52, 24 July 2025 (UTC)

Ohh okay, but in the guidelines its mentioned "Worldwide gross box office collection reported by Bollywood Hungama and Box Office India should be used in infoboxes and list type articles. If unavailable, any of the other generally reliable sources listed below can be used." Thats why I removed Jagran Josh which was not in the list. Tonyy Starkk (talk) 10:05, 24 July 2025 (UTC)

It works for Northern side films, but not so for southern side as Bollywood Hungama or BOI doesn't report for most kollywood films. Vestrian24Bio 16:27, 24 July 2025 (UTC)

Yes, but the second part of the sentence states "If unavailable, any of the other generally reliable sources listed below can be used." Meaning any reliable source from the table in WP:ICTFSOURCES needs to be used right. And in the list there was no Jagran Josh, meaning this should not be used for box office reporting right? Tonyy Starkk (talk) 17:09, 24 July 2025 (UTC)

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