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Recent edits to Kanji

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Talk:Luop

That appears to be a typo in a book called Amanda's Kitchen for the dialect "Lá lốp". Anyway the redirect can be deleted. In ictu oculi (talk) 17:18, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

I agree with you. It should be deleted. Greenknight dv (talk) 15:38, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

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Late antiquity

You recently moved Category:Late antiquity, without actually moving the contents of the category. I was surprised to find it empty. Please do maintenance when you move categories. Empty categories regularly get deleted. Dimadick (talk) 08:39, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

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It looks like on Vietnamese Wikipedia, this name points to their article for Tonkin/Mien Bac. From reading the text, I'm undecided as to which is the better target.

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@Rosguill: Thank you for your message. Both Tonkin in English and Miền Bắc in Vietnamese are ambiguous in meaning, though they can be considered equivalent to each other. Yet, there is one thing we can be absolutely certain is that Bắc Phần, just like Bắc Bộ, refers to Northern Vietnam only, not to ambiguous terms of Miền Bắc and Tonkin. Thank you for reminding about Vietnamese Wikipedia as well, I'm going to correct them over there. Regards. Greenknight dv (talk) 22:25, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

The historical names

I believe the names "Tonkin, Annam, Cochinchina" were European spellings and were not official names of the regions until the French conquest after the latter half of the 19th century. If you create more articles about Vietnamese history before the mid-19th century, I recommend we should use the Vietnamese names for regions. In this case, it would be Dang Ngoai, Dang Trong, Dai Viet,.....rather than Tonkin, Cochinchina, Annam,..... 152.130.15.4 (talk) 16:38, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

I have used both endonyms and exonyms for these regions. And mind you, all the names Annam, Tonkin and Cochinchina predate the French colonial period in Vietnam. Greenknight dv (talk) 18:59, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

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Greenknight d v - just pinged you on the Vietnamese tadpole script Talk page. Cheers In ictu oculi (talk) 13:35, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

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Sorry, I accidentally rolled back one of your edits while scrolling through my watchlist. I've reinstated your edit. Best Girth Summit _(blether) 20:36, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

Help me to investigate

Hello, can you help me to investigate about a Vietnamese literature work? Several days ago, I've discovered a work about the Vietnam War, which knows as 南方来信 Letter From the South for us. I saw there is an article described that:

• 南方来信：越南现代文学在中国的译介和传播

According above article, this should be named Letter from the Fatherland in Vietnam (in this article, 祖国来信), including a series of letters talk about the war, this was translated in Chinese in January 1964. In China, this was published between May and July of the same year, and later derived as straight play, manga, and even Peking Opera (I added them in Outline of the Vietnam War). So in China this became the most notable Vietnamese work at the times. If you're able to known about more information about this Letter from the Fatherland, I hope you let me know. Thanks. -- Great Brightstar (talk) 15:34, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

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On this photo I found the third flag looks unknown for me. This flag has a yellow band with three red bands and a dragon in the middle. Can you figure out what is that? -- Great Brightstar (talk) 15:36, 26 November 2021 (UTC)

@Great Brightstar: I assume this photo came from this forum before being used by TTXVA. The source indicates that the third one is the flag of ngự lâm quân 御林軍, or the personal guard unit of Bảo Đại. This was the time when he was the Chief of the State of Vietnam and the Emperor in the Domain of the Crown. Greenknight dv (talk) 02:43, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

Pseudo-Dragon Star Flag

I pinged you recently but think that a direct message might be better, I keep seeing the "Pseudo-Dragon Star Flag" pop up unsourced in a lot of Nguyễn-related articles, might it be wiser to request for it to be deleted for a week at the Wikimedia Commons and then only restore it on articles discussing its existence as it is essentially an unsourced myth anywhere else. And with how little evidence actually exist about its usage during the Nguyễn Dynasty and the only actual contemporary source confirming its existence pointing to it being half a century older than its purported use and claiming it as the flag of the Later Lê Dynasty I think that it's safe to say that there is no historical basis for this flag ever being associated with the Nguyễn government or its Emperors.

I really like this flag, it has a beautiful design, but as far as I can tell it's 100% (one-hundred percent) fiction to attribute it to any Nguyễn Lord or Emperor. --Donald Trung (talk) 14:41, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

I found the original propagation of this myth, I think that user "Editorfree1011" probably just took the unsourced claims by user "Ngockhanh6bnt" at face value and inserted them into the English-language Wikipedia. Usually user "Lệ Xuân" would have reverted it but she's less active lately. This issue is systemic and can't be blamed on one user anymore, but we need that file to debunk it. I still think that my "Commons cleanse" idea might be the easiest solution. --Donald Trung (talk) 20:09, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

Capital of French Indo-China between 1939 and 1945

I've found conflicting information about the capital of French Indo-China during this period, I've read in some places that Da Lat was the capital while others claimed that it was only the Summer capital. As you seem to have an extensive bibliography of this period do you know which is correct? Was Da Lat the capital at all during this period? --Donald Trung (talk) 06:06, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

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History of Vietnam

Hi, because I see you have made some edits to this article and you are a member of the Vietnam project on English Wikipedia, I have a small request. In the modern history section of this article, the paragraphs are presented too long. Can you help me do some line spacing and create more subsections in this section? This will help to shorten the length of the paragraphs, resulting in better readability. Thanks! 183.91.7.248 (talk) 06:11, 16 April 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for fulfilling my request❤️! 183.91.7.248 (talk) 14:10, 19 April 2025 (UTC)

Hi, in this part, the first sentence is missing a period at the end. I hope you add it, thanks! 2001:EE0:41C1:DAF2:DD62:86B3:57BA:C52 (talk) 16:58, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

Done. 2001:EE0:41C1:DAF2:21AC:E3A5:2BDB:BCC4 (talk) 16:36, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

South Vietnam

Since the beginning of this article mentions that South Vietnam first garnered international recognition in 1949 as the State of Vietnam before becoming a republic in 1955, I suggest that the infobox should be fixed to reflect this, maybe a small note below the part 1955-1975 as "(1949–1955: State of Vietnam)" or maybe we should fix the establishment date in the infobox and add the name "State of Vietnam" at the beginning of the infobox. Look at the article about North Vietnam, we still count its founding year as 1945 even though Vietnam was not divided into North and South at that time. I think the founding year of South Vietnam should be counted from 1949, 1955 is just the year it became a republic (note that Vietnam was divided in 1954). 2402:800:7C16:7984:E94D:4844:3803:7D93 (talk) 22:24, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

This is a shortcoming of English Wikipedia, which uses 'North Vietnam' and 'South Vietnam' instead of their official names. I understand your argument, but the thing is that State of Vietnam and the Republic of Vietnam were two successive entities and are treated as separate articles (as they should be!) while the Democratic Republic of Vietnam was a single entity. I’ll try to make adjustments; let me know what you think. Greenknight dv (talk) 10:58, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

I think that at least a small note below the part 1955-1975 as "(1949–1955: State of Vietnam)" should be added. 2401:D800:BD:4A53:5DA0:DF05:7B03:56C9 (talk) 11:29, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

I see what you mean, so in the article about North Vietnam you should also edit the infobox to show that the Democratic Republic of Vietnam only became North Vietnam in 1954. Also in the article about South Vietnam, there is a wrong detail that I hope you will correct, it states that South Vietnam was bound to the Geneva Accords because it was a member of the French Union even though it did not sign the Accords, I think this is wrong because the State of Vietnam was recognized by France as fully independent within the French Union on 4 June 1954, including the right to independence from the treaties signed by France. 2401:D800:BD:4A53:5DA0:DF05:7B03:56C9 (talk) 11:44, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

Ok, I agree with your points, but at least you should bold the words State of Vietnam at the beginning of the article because South Vietnam here included this state during 1954-55. Also, what do you think about my two requests above? 2001:EE0:41C1:DAF2:20FB:822A:8C81:74DF (talk) 22:21, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

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I think there is a problem here, I understand you use 1954 as the start date when South Vietnam was created due to the division of the country. However, Vietnam was officially unified only in 1976. So we should use 1949 as I said instead of 1954. 2401:D800:BD:4A53:5DA0:DF05:7B03:56C9 (talk) 11:47, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

At the very least I hope you correct the founding year to 1949 instead of 1954. Of course if you follow all my requests that's even better. Up to you. Thanks! 2401:D800:F140:C640:9675:427F:6CF2:3905 (talk) 18:47, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

As you know, there is already a separate article on the State of Vietnam, while the article on South Vietnam, in reality, chiefly covers the nearly 20-year-long Republic of Vietnam, albeit including a brief transitional prelude. In common English usage, South Vietnam as a political entity refers to the anti-communist Republic of Vietnam, not to the State of Vietnam during its final period of 1954–1955, nor to the communist Republic of South Vietnam from 1975 to 1976.
The point is that South Vietnam is taken as a synonym for the Republic of Vietnam, which makes sense given the fact that it lasted the longest, from 1955 to 1975. I don't see how further adjustments would be helpful. Also, I recommend y'all invest in creating your own confirmed account to edit these. Cheers. Greenknight dv (talk) 20:26, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

@Greenknight dv: You're dealing with a long-banned editor. I suggest ignoring them. They are looking for you to help with WP:PROXYING. — MarkH₂₁^talk 00:01, 27 April 2025 (UTC)

@MarkH21I would like to note this editor is making the exact same comments on my talk page under different IPs; hopefully that assists in banning this user if at all possible. Yeoutie (talk) 14:07, 28 April 2025 (UTC)

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Flag of South Vietnam

There was no the State of Vietnam or Republic of Vietnam in 1948, so information at the beginning of this article is wrong. I suggest adding the Provisional Central Government of Vietnam (1948-49) because it also used this flag and was predecessor of the State of Vietnam. 2401:D800:2FB:7C84:A056:77C0:B84F:3859 (talk) 12:45, 28 April 2025 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for your positive contributions to the Vietnam War article. It looks like there was an edit from another account recently that undone one of your edits there, what do you think? 2402:800:3EBF:F877:22FC:5E0D:84E8:3F4E (talk) 13:41, 30 April 2025 (UTC)

That pro-communist account is blocked. 2401:D800:B2:18AF:9CC5:A47:24E2:6549 (talk) 17:08, 30 April 2025 (UTC)

Y'all please make sure to use the article's talk page for discussion, and consider registering. Thank you. Greenknight dv (talk) 17:22, 30 April 2025 (UTC)

I think there is something wrong with this article. The Geneva Accords of July 1954 signed by France and the Viet Minh did not recognize Vietnam's independence, but only recognized the withdrawal of French troops to the South and the division of Vietnam into two military zones. The State of Vietnam gained full independence within the French Union on 4 June 1954, which is why Ngo Dinh Diem could refuse the general elections stipulated in the Geneva Accords. 2401:D800:B2:18AF:9CC5:A47:24E2:6549 (talk) 18:09, 30 April 2025 (UTC)

I mean the first part of the article is wrong when it states that the Geneva Accords made Vietnam independent, I have explained and given 3 sources above. 2001:EE0:41C1:DAF2:7D66:CB0A:BEB3:5005 (talk) 19:37, 30 April 2025 (UTC)

Although I agree that Vietnam’s formal independence was not granted at the Geneva Conference, I find your argument concerning the vi:Hiệp ước Matignon (1954) insufficient. I would suggest that better sources are needed to elaborate on this issue. This is also the last time I want you to use my talk page instead of the article's talk pages to discuss. Greenknight dv (talk) 22:55, 30 April 2025 (UTC)

We all know that Vietnamese Wikipedia is a far-left and pro-communist site. Although the Matignon Agreement was never ratified by the heads of state of the two countries, it still came into effect on the day it was signed according to Article 4 of the agreement. That is the key point. The first part of the article states that Vietnam gained "independence" thanks to the Geneva Agreement, which will mislead readers. 2401:D800:BF:2862:7882:8932:24A6:1588 (talk) 04:35, 1 May 2025 (UTC)

My 3 sources are fine, one of them even comes from the U.S. governement. In general, Vietnam already gained full independence on 4 June 1954, not with the Geneva Accords making the country divided one month later. 2401:D800:BF:2862:7882:8932:24A6:1588 (talk) 09:36, 1 May 2025 (UTC)

At least, can you add information about the State of Vietnam being recognized by France as fully independent on 4 June 1954 to the background part of the article Vietnam War or to the article First Indochina War (or maybe to the article Vietnam)? Please! 2401:D800:718A:982A:A166:89E8:F867:A75D (talk) 15:06, 1 May 2025 (UTC)

No. Besides the primary source, I can only verify one secondary source. I can't tell what the other secondary source was discussing. I also prefer to see more up-to-date academic sources, ideally from the last 25 years, discussing this issue. Greenknight dv (talk) 16:57, 1 May 2025 (UTC)

The first source is in French. I have another source: https://web.archive.org/web/20140726175311/http://www.montrealgazette.com/business/aerospace/entertainment/Photos/996953/story.html 2401:D800:718A:982A:A166:89E8:F867:A75D (talk) 19:00, 1 May 2025 (UTC)

I can't see what the content says. Greenknight dv (talk) 19:09, 1 May 2025 (UTC)

It shows a picture taken on 4 June 1954 showing Vietnamese Prime Minister Buu Loc and French council president Joseph Laniel preparing to sign two Franco-Vietnamese treaties by which France recognised Vietnam as an independent state at the Hotel Matignon in Paris. I take it from Vietnamese Wikipedia article about the Matignon Accords. 2401:D800:718A:982A:A166:89E8:F867:A75D (talk) 20:48, 1 May 2025 (UTC)

I know where you got it from. It's still loading forever tho, and there are no captions whatsoever. Basically nothing news. Greenknight dv (talk) 20:58, 1 May 2025 (UTC)

This event is true, it is not for nothing that legally the government in Saigon could refuse to hold general elections as stipulated in the Geneva Accords. By the way, why did you write the Vietnam War as a war of national liberation? Is this biased towards Vietnamese communists? I think you should at least put the two words national liberation in quotation marks. 2402:800:73F0:654B:6CB3:53F4:970D:4389 (talk) 05:07, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

I know the event happened, but understanding its implications and effects within a broader context requires academic sources. Otherwise, your argument appears to be original research. And I follow the source's conclusion regarding all three dimensions of the war. Greenknight dv (talk) 05:23, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

There is a source proving my point: United States – Vietnam Relations, 1945–1967: A Study Prepared by the Department of Defense/III. B. Role and Obligations of State of Vietnam. Also, I have another one: https://www.cvce.eu/en/obj/anti_communist_tract_following_the_signing_of_the_franco_vietnamese_treaty_4_june_1954-en-a939e7a0-bd9d-4f41-b0bc-5f44e769f626.html 2402:800:73F0:654B:6CB3:53F4:970D:4389 (talk) 07:21, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

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As others have pointed out above, the recent IP edits to your talk page are an attempt at block evasion. The editor behind these IP's is User:Phạm Văn Rạng who has been blocked for many years. Don't engage with them. Acting on their behalf is WP:PROXYING and may in the worst case lead to sanctions against you. Given your shared interests with this sockpuppeteer, any request from an IP address adjacent to the ones reported here (or here if the case has been archived by the time you read this) should be assumed to be attempting proxying and ignored. Thank you. Sir Sputnik (talk) 00:34, 3 May 2025 (UTC)