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Your submission at Articles for creation: Pao Pao (April 30)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Sophisticatedevening was:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

in-depth (not just passing mentions about the subject)
reliable
secondary
independent of the subject

Make sure you add references that meet these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Pao Pao and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
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Sophisticatedevening🍷^(talk) 12:30, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Cheglokov! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Sophisticatedevening🍷^(talk) 12:30, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Pao Pao (video game) (April 30)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Bobby Cohn was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of web content). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Pao Pao (video game) and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

Bobby Cohn 🍁 (talk) 14:49, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Lootbound (video game) (May 1)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by DoubleGrazing were:

This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

in-depth (not just passing mentions about the subject)
reliable
secondary
independent of the subject

Make sure you add references that meet these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Lootbound (video game) and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
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DoubleGrazing (talk) 16:24, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Both Wikipedia pages were written by me as a completely neutral individual with no affiliation to either the games or the development team. I discovered both games on social media and liked them, which inspired me to create their Wikipedia pages.

Perhaps an email from the company might have caused some confusion, but I’d like to assure you that I personally reached out to ArtDock and asked them to contact Wikipedia support in order to request permission to use the games’ posters on the pages. Cheglokov (talk) 16:31, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I wasn't actually asking about those images, I was asking (below) whether you have a relationship with this ArtDock, since both your draft are about their games. And now that you say you've been in touch with them, I'm thinking you probably do?

The images are also problematic, as it happens. You've uploaded them as your own work. If this is true, then you clearly have a relationship with ArtDock, in which case please disclose it. Or if you don't have such relationship, then I can't see how these would be your own work, in which case you shouldn't have uploaded them as such. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 16:38, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The images were taken from their official website. However, I wasn’t fully aware of how to upload them properly. On one hand, the images are publicly available, but on the other hand, the site states that materials can be used with proper credit to the company. Their website also provides an official contact email, so I reached out to them to ensure I wasn’t violating any of Wikipedia’s content use policies. Cheglokov (talk) 16:46, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Just because those images are publicly available on the internet doesn't mean they are in the public domain ie. free from copyright; the vast majority of content on the internet is copyrighted. When you upload an image (or any content) here, you're releasing it from copyright; that's why you're only allowed to upload content that is your own work. Now that these images have been uploaded, anyone, including ArtDock's competitors, can do anything they want with them; I'm pretty sure ArtDock wouldn't be too happy about that. Unless you can provide evidence that the copyright owner intended to release the copyright, these images will need to be deleted. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 17:05, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, thank you for the clarification — that was my mistake. I hope they’ll just request the content to be removed from Wikipedia or file a report on the page Cheglokov (talk) 17:19, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

May 2025

Hello Cheglokov. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being employed (or being compensated in any way) by a person, group, company or organization to promote their interests. Paid advocacy on Wikipedia must be disclosed even if you have not specifically been asked to edit Wikipedia. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

Paid advocates are strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Cheglokov. The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=Cheglokov|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. DoubleGrazing (talk) 16:26, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to clarify that I am not receiving any form of compensation—financial or otherwise—for creating these Wikipedia pages. I have no affiliation with the developers or companies behind the games, and I created the articles purely out of personal interest.

I work as a design teacher at a children’s school, and I have a strong appreciation for video games, especially indie games. I discovered both titles through social media, liked what I saw, and felt they deserved a presence on Wikipedia.

To avoid copyright issues, I did contact ArtDock and asked them to reach out to Wikipedia support regarding the use of their posters on the pages. This was the only communication I initiated with the developers, and it was done in the interest of proper sourcing—not as part of any collaboration or paid work.

I hope this clears up any concerns. I am happy to provide further clarification if needed. Cheglokov (talk) 16:39, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Pao Pao (video game) (May 11)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Zxcvbnm was:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

in-depth (not just passing mentions about the subject)
reliable
secondary
independent of the subject

Make sure you add references that meet these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

I am mostly seeing promotional content sources, WP:SIGCOV does not appear to be met.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Pao Pao (video game) and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 21:15, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]