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Atkins book

BTW, if you need anything from it, I have the 2011 Atkins book. And thank you for writing the Peters article. I meant to do that eventually. PARAKANYAA (talk) 13:45, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No problem - I had it in the works for a while, just hadn't worked it up for the wiki. But isn't that always the case? At least it is for me - I've got loads of half started ideas that I just don't have the time to get finished. And I don't know about how it is for you, but I have to shift mental gears all the time because I'm working on a masters, so when I write for that (and it's a lot of writing), it's primary sources and interpretation, which is OR here. So jumping from one style to the other takes a toll on my brain.

Thanks for the offer - I think the 2002 and 2011 books are mostly similar? When I bought the 2002 book, I actually thought I was getting the 2011 one (because I already had the ebook edition of the 2002). ButlerBlog (talk) 14:22, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There's some stuff that is the same but also a lot of stuff that isn't in both directions and a lot of the entries are rewritten. But some of it, yes.

I have a lot of articles in the work too. Let us hope that we do not have the same draft ideas, lol. Not quite the same deal with me I just jump from topic to topic a lot. PARAKANYAA (talk) 14:46, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The two that I'm most focused on in Identity right now are Joe Jeffers and Dan Gayman, both of which I'd target to publish to mainspace before the end of summer ("summer" meaning "before school starts again", which for me is very early August). I do have some things started on America's Promise Ministries, which dovetails with the Sheldon Emry article I started awhile ago - just haven't gotten enough good sourcing on APM, and I don't know if I'll get that done before Fall term begins. In a related milieu, Greg Dixon is also one I've done work on but not-ready-for-primetime yet. I don't think I have anything else in the works presently that might run into what you might also be working on (at least that's my best guess). Is there any overlap there? If so, I'm not married to my current drafts. FTR, I usually try to keep a list of my draft ideas here, although those drafts don't always reflect the offline work - they're usually just reminders for me until I start building out from my notes. I use Zotero to build out ideas following a "source first" approach and then that builds into an article (or paper, if it's a degree related project). ButlerBlog (talk) 15:26, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I should add, like you I jump from topic to topic as well... ButlerBlog (talk) 15:43, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

My interest is more in right-wing extremism generally rather than Christian Identity specifically, though I do find that interesting. So thankfully no duplication there as of now. I write most of my drafts locally now but I'm working on articles on people who are in the rw-extremism encyclopedias who we don't have articles on (see the list I made User:PARAKANYAA/Prospectus/Far-right) Jack Oliphant, Tommy Rydén, James Burford, Rick Cooper, atm. I was going to work on Gayman at one point since he's on that list but I didn't start that yet, thankfully. PARAKANYAA (talk) 16:00, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! That's a good list - and a good approach you're focusing on to fill in needed coverage! I'll reach out if I start anything new so I don't end up working on something you're already focused on. Aside from the specific drafts I noted above, I'm not working on anything else new. Looking your list over, Dave Barley is probably where I'd end up next if I look to start working on something new, primarily because he's an extension of Emry and APM where I've already done other work, but there's a lot that is RL'd in that list that I would probably never dip into. My interest in writing on KKK subjects only extends as far as it intersects with CI (and BI in the CI embryonic period). I will say, I hope someone tackles trying to better cover the KKK as distinct phases/eras because they are very different in scope. If it's you that decides to kick the hornet's nest of trying to split the main article, you'll find at least one editor here that would support it (or maybe you think it's fine as it stands). Sorry... didn't mean to drift too far afield here. I can tend to ramble if I'm not careful. ButlerBlog (talk) 16:26, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The KKK book is included in my list because bewilderingly it included many far-righters who had nothing to do with the KKK at all. I agree with you on hoping someone gets onto writing about the KKK eras better, because yeah as is we aren't doing it too well. Maybe me in several years. But thanks for all your work on the CI topic. PARAKANYAA (talk) 01:42, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

MacArthur

BB (Butler), I guess or suppose it's fine to remove MacArthur images but replacements should be made. Efficacity (talk) 05:38, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Efficacity: While copyvio itself is a huge deal, your actions are not a big deal - it's clear you were acting in good faith and it is easily chalked up to the learning curve of editing. Images have to fall into one of four categories of copyright and licensing. See: WP:IUP#COPYRIGHT. There was some mention of this in the edit summaries, and when clicking through to look at the details of the images on commons (this one, for example, you can see the reasons they were nominated for deletion (possible copyvio). Keep an eye on edit summaries when you see items (text or images) being removed and when in doubt, look into the validity of what has been noted in the edit summary.

Also helpful: start new topics as a new section on a talk page rather than as a reply to an existing thread (hence why I moved your comment to a new section).

BTW, your general copy editing is seems to be very good, so it's not my intent to discourage you from editing. ButlerBlog (talk) 12:19, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]