User talk:86.160.247.245

March 2025

Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did at TVR, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear to be constructive and has been reverted. If you only meant to make a test edit, please use the sandbox for that. Thank you. Iiii I I I (talk) 06:04, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I gave valid reasons in all of my edits. Do not revert them again. TVR ceased to exist when Smolensky shuttered the company - not one single development prototype was ever built for the 2018 Griffith, let alone any customer cars, and the EV proposals are dead too, it's just a dormant company with no factory and no employees. 86.160.247.245 (talk) 22:29, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I reverted your edits and am doing so again because you have not provided any citations to back up what you claim. Even if true, this is not how you update a Wikipedia article – you may amend or expand the existing text to include that TVR never followed through, but you should not remove sourced information just because you have some personal grudge against the company. It's plainly incorrect to say that the company is not called "TVR Electric Vehicles Limited", or to remove the line about the company being under new ownership from the history section. Iiii I I I (talk) 23:57, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

TVR Electric Vehicles Limited is a wholly separate subject and is also completely dormant and as such not noteworthy and does not merit an article. Everything the company did that is notable occurred between 1956 and 2006. Nothing else. I do not have a personal grudge against the company - I am merely sticking to and striving for factual accuracy. The existing state of affairs implied that the 2018 Griffith is still a real and present thing, and that there is a future of electric TVR cars. Neither is true. There is zero possibility of any TVR car emerging in the coming years, as examination of the accounts filed with Companies House will show - they are not spending any money on R&D or labour, they do not have any employees - in short, it's a bullshit company that exists only for tax purposes. Unless and until there is any prospect of new ownership of the TVR brand ACTUALLY developing new product, the articles as they were/are could not be described as accurate or truthful. They're dishonest, disingenuous and misleading. 86.160.247.245 (talk) 03:19, 6 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I've copied these comments over to Talk:TVR and responded there, since the article talk page is a more appropriate place to discuss page content. --Iiii I I I (talk) 04:41, 6 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on TVR Griffith. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Points to note:

Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes and work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing.

Also, if you cast aspersions against another editor again (i.e. " Revert vexatious reversion and restore factual accuracy."), you will be blocked. Continue the discussion at Talk:TVR to gain consensus. S0091 (talk) 20:51, 6 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Iiii I I I if this editor reverts again, report them. That's not say to they aren't be right on the merits (or wrong), but being right matters not when it comes edit warring. 20:58, 6 March 2025 (UTC) S0091 (talk) 20:58, 6 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]