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Hey, this is Pbritti! I'm a Coloradan who's lived in Virginia for a few years, but Wawa, Sheetz, and Pennsylvania are all things I'm quite familiar with! I'll provide an in-depth review soon. Please feel welcome to reply wherever you like below or on ping me on my talk page. Best, ~ Pbritti (talk) 20:35, 22 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sourcing looks to come exclusively from RSs. Will compare citations to content of the sources, but they are all the right thing to see in this sort of article.
Some material in the lead are not in the body of the article and aren't sourced. We don't have cited statements about locations many aspects of the rivalry itself. I'll list those in a later comment.
Sheetz stores are mostly located This sentence in the lead is unreferenced and has no supporting statement in the main text.
Broadly speaking, I worry that the article is not comprehensive. For example, there is no mention of a documentary on the subject.
I do agree this topic was a bit like squeezing blood from a stone at times and there weren't a great breadth of sources, but I included as much as I could find. Regarding this "documentary", I did come across mentions of it while researching but it doesn't exist at all. The cited article is a fluff piece interviewing the prospective director, but the website for the proposed documentary hasn't been updated in years save for the addition of one AI-generated image. If it does get made it might be worth inclusion if it gets media mention, but all I see are paid promotions and fluff pieces for something very early in the drafting stages. Dan Leonard (talk • contribs)21:56, 9 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I lied–instead, I looked at the photos next. Both seem to be appropriately licensed through the Commons. Funnily, I've been to both locations pictured!
The source for Wawa's headquartering in Wawa, Pennsylvania, is a tad dated. I've driven by the headquarters a few time, though, so it's obviously still there. I think the Forbes company profile should be sufficient to source this claim a little more recently.
revealed is perhaps too significant a term in the context of there being no "gentlemen's agreement", as we did not get to see any evidence for the claim. Instead, say something like "the president of Wawa, Brian Schaller, said in 2024 that there was no such agreement."
Not a sourcing thing, but the pipings of Altoona, Pennsylvania and Wawa, Pennsylvania are unnecessary per MOS:INTERNAL. There seems to be a little latitude in this particular aspect of the MOS, so it's not a stick point by any stretch.
I reviewed every statement and compared them to the cited source, with none failing to accurately verify the relevant claims. Nice work!
The Spectator source indicates that Central PA is in Sheetz's corner. However, I'm not going to be a stickler on assigning value to what feels like a weak aside.
Coverage is suitably broad, per the above comments
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Reverting discussion of other stores and expansion outside Pennsylvania
@Jgera5: I've reverted your contributions to the article in concurrence with Pbritti's description of them as "unclear [...] unencyclopedic wording". The primary issue I see is the expansion of the article's scope to Ohio, Michigan, North and South Carolina, and Florida. None of the sources provided describe how the Sheetz–Wawa rivalry exists as a social phenomenon anywhere except Pennsylvania, and in fact the sources almost always inexorably tie the phenomenon to the culture of Pennsylvania. "A prime example of the two competing head to head can be seen in Ohio in the Greater Cincinnati area, where Sheetz started quietly expanding into the area in 2024 as part of a larger expansion into the nearby Columbus and Dayton markets while Wawa began a more aggressive expansion in the area in 2025, with Sheetz focused more on the Interstate 75 corridor north of Cincinnati with Dayton, Toledo, and even its first Michigan locations in Detroit." is a really confusing run-on sentence. The phrase "A prime example of the two competing head to head" is unencyclopedic, and the provided source provides no support for either company's strategies of "quietly expanding" or "aggressive expansion", and makes no mention whatsoever of Toledo, Detroit, or Michigan. The following sentence is similarly unsupported: the provided source doesn't support North Carolina as a "traditional Sheetz market" and makes no mention of South Carolina. In fact, the article repeatedly describes the phenomenon as Pennsylvania only ("the Keystone State convenience store wars" and "In Pennsylvania, one of the most heated debate centers around Sheetz vs. Wawa"). In the following paragraph, "supposedly to fend off a potential expansion of Wawa" is unencyclopedic and unsupported by the provided source, which only draws a connection to Wawa's expansion but does not allege a causal relationship. The final run-on sentence "Much of that consolidation has involved 7-Eleven (which since the late 2000s has purchased the company-owned stations from BP & Sunoco as well as Speedway to compliment its decades-long existing presence in the market), as well as the merger of locally-based Coen Markets with locally-based CoGos and the pending acquisition of locally-based GetGo by Circle K parent Alimentation Couche-Tard, whose existing Pittsburgh area stores are descended from the former Lawson/Dairy Mart chain" seems entirely irrelevant to the article and is very difficult to parse, not to mention a complete disconnect from the cited source, which makes no mention of 7-Eleven, BP, Sunoco, Speedway, Lawson, or Dairy Mart. Dan Leonard (talk • contribs)22:48, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Jgera5: I have to revert your contributions again. The two have begun to encroach on each other in more recent times, with Wawa expanding into the state capital of Harrisburg while Sheetz is starting to make a push into Greater Philadelphia is redundant to the prior couple sentences and disrupts the flow of the paragraph. As I previously mentioned above about a similar prior addition, the sentence the expansion into Harrisburg prompted Sheetz to announce its intention to add more locations in Western Pennsylvania ... allegedly to prevent Wawa from entering the Pittsburgh market is not supported by the provided source which still makes no mention of a causal relationship. Regarding the paragraph about baseball, the statement about Sheetz is unsourced, and the Wawa-Phillies relationship seems to have only been a rumor or hypothetical that made no lasting impact. I don't think either are due for inclusion here. Even if the Sheetz-Pirates statement was sourced, it seems fairly irrelevant to discuss a specific low-notability marketing campaign of one of the companies here, and certainly not the run-on in the process ending separate sponsorship deals with Sunoco and locally-based GetGo, the latter of which was in the process of being sold to Circle K parent Alimentation Couche-Tard at the time. Dan Leonard (talk • contribs)15:19, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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