Talk:Viktor Axelsen

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Too many Danish sources

There are too many Danish sources in the career section. Please try to replace them with English sources. Thank you! Timothytyy (talk) 05:15, 10 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Axelsen's 'one of the greatest of all time' sources:

The use of the "widely" nomenclature is inappropriate to describe how people view Axelsen's career, whilst I accept that he is considered to be one of the greatest, the sources cited are as follows:

https://www.rfi.fr/en/sports/20240805-viktory-axelsen-enters-legend-with-consecutive-badminton-golds-for-denmark -> does not mention once about Axelsen being the greatest of all time.

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20240805-king-axelsen-emulates-lin-dan-in-retaining-olympic-badminton-crown -> keyword of "suggestions of greatest of all time" in no way does it appear as "widely" but can be deemed as somewhat appropriate given the context

https://olympics.bwfbadminton.com/news-single/2024/08/06/into-the-league-of-legends/ -> does not mention Axelsen being the greatest of all time but rather, the only mention of "GOAT" is when Axelsen refers to Lin Dan.

https://english.news.cn/20240806/32bf8b6586c649a992ae1a58b64d04e3/c.html#:~:text=In%20addition%20to%20his%20Tokyo,weeks%20as%20world%20No.%201. -> 1. Is this source acceptable or regarded valid? 2. It again, does not mention Axelsen being one of the greatest of all time.

It appears only the second source is valid, and wanted to see an other thoughts, or if anyone else had any other sources they'd like to contribute. As Wikipedia's rule isn't to extrapolate information, as this previous editor has very clearly done. DarkPhantom23 (talk) 14:25, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Do you even follow badminton, or any sport, DarkPhantom23 (talk)? Lee Chong Wei’s page proclaims that he is “widely regarded as one of the greatest badminton players of all time” despite his never winning the Olympics, World Championships or Asian Games, and it relies on sources far thinner than the four reputable citations already supporting Viktor Axelsen’s claim; Taufik Hidayat’s article similarly calls him “one of the greats” without a single reference, even though his résumé is barely half as decorated as Axelsen’s. Football biographies set the same precedent—Eden Hazard, Kevin De Bruyne, Mohamed Salah and David De Gea are all described as among the best of their generation with no inline citations whatsoever—yet you single out Axelsen, a multiple‑time Olympic, World, and Continental Champion, former world No. 1 and the sport’s all‑time prize‑money leader, as unworthy of “among the greatest.” If you dismiss unparalleled titles, dominant ranking stretches and record‑breaking earnings, what metric would ever satisfy you? Clinging rigidly to outdated citation minutiae while ignoring both consistency across articles and the obvious weight of on‑court achievement is not editorial rigour, it is tunnel vision. Step out of your own echo chamber, apply the same standard you ignore elsewhere, and stop manufacturing any more drama on the Axelsen page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tung X. Nguyen (talk • contribs) 06:41, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yes I do follow badminton, and I also follow Wikipedia citing rules. I personally do think Viktor Axelsen is one of the greatest players of all time, just behind Lin Dan, however my personal feelings are completely irrelevant as to what should be included in the article. The difference between these two articles, is that the sources cited for Lee Chong Wei's "widely regarded as one of the greatest of all time" explicitly state that.

However, in the case of Axelsen, none of the sources cited explicitly mention that he is one of the greatest of all time. In Wikipedia, you must adhere to WP:RS and WP:SYNTH. You can't make conclusions based on your own observation. As pointed above, NONE of the articles say he is among the greatest of all time.

For the football examples you have named, it is because the sources cited are mentioned in the footnotes. I will be escalating this to a Wikipedia administrator if you keep reverting the edit without reaching a consensus, not to mention your incredibly rude and demeaning behaviour, I will notify an administrator regardless. DarkPhantom23 (talk) 08:22, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Responding to request on my talkpage) @Tung X. Nguyen:, please see WP:OTHERCONTENT, WP:PEACOCK and WP:SYNTH for why the arguments you present above are best avoided.

In short: if good sources exists that specifically refer to to the subject as (one of) the greatest of all times, or of his generation etc, cite them while keeping attribution and due weight in mind. If such sources don't exist, then simply cite the subject's concrete achievements that you refer to above (multiple‑time Olympic, World, and Continental Champion, former world No. 1 and the sport’s all‑time prize‑money leader) and leave it to the reader to evaluate them as they wish. Abecedare (talk) 18:52, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]