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A fact from The Lincoln Project appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 1 June 2020 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that four prominent Republicans have endorsed a Democrat for president in 2020?

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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 22:40, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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... that The Lincoln Project was formed by four RINOs? Source: "castigated the authors as "nominal Republicans" and RINOs." https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/dec/26/editorial-the-never-trumpers-dangerous-lincoln-pro/
ALT1: ... that four prominent Republicans have endorsed a Democrat for president? Source: "the committee announced their endorsement of Joe Biden" ~~https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2020/04/08/us/politics/ap-us-election-2020.html/~~ https://apnews.com/ff4d5bcb568f02e76af1a8945167c8b5

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Created by RoySmith (talk). Self-nominated at 06:08, 16 April 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Comment RINO is a derogatory term. Unless the committee describes itself as such, it would be best to use a more neutral descriptor such as "NeverTrump Republicans". Also, you hook is not interesting, it is not surprising that people from a political faction would get together. b uidhe 21:58, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Added ALT1. -- RoySmith (talk) 23:44, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Article was brand new when nominated and has enough readable prose size. Article is neutral and has inline citations. Source for the hook is now a broken link, but the text is available directly from Associated Press so I've put that citation in the article. Article is surprisingly stable given the subject matter! QPQ done. Only issue is copyright: copyvio tool flagged up the "On May 4, 2020, the group released an ad..." paragraph as from a Dailyhawker.com article, but that article is dated 6 May 2020; the date the paragraph was added to the WP article. ALT1 hook is a great improvement. I think we need a rephrasing of that one paragraph before this can pass. MartinPoulter (talk) 15:25, 13 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I've updated the hook reference to point to the archive AP copy of the article; thanks for finding this. I'll look at the other stuff in a moment. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:31, 13 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I've reworded the offending paragraph, and provided two citations for the direct quote. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:54, 13 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for making these improvements so quickly. All criteria met, I think ALT1 is good to go.

MartinPoulter (talk) 19:03, 13 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I came by to promote this, but am unable to verify the hook fact as written. Footnote 5, which supports the sentence All four, although conservative Republicans, are outspoken critics of Trump., says that they are no longer members of the Republican Party. Yoninah (talk) 21:51, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yoninah, The NY Times op-ed by the four founders is titled, "We Are Republicans, and We Want Trump Defeated", so clearly they consider themselves Republicans. And, the NBC news piece (reference 5) doesn't actually say they're no longer members of the party. It says, "seven-person advisory council ... Most, but not all, have already left the Republican Party". So, we don't even know from that which of them have left the party, or exactly how many. I'm not even sure what it means to "have left the party". Did they officially cancel their subscription to the magazine? Did they file a notice with their local election board that they're changing their party affiliation? I appreciate the need to be accurate, but I think this is a little excessive -- RoySmith (talk) 22:26, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

OK, so we'll go with footnotes 1 and 2 in the lead to support the ALT1 hook fact. Restoring tick per MartinPoulter's review. Yoninah (talk) 22:38, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Genuine Question

I know some "approved sources" like to say that the LP is moderate conservative, but does anyone actually have any firsthand documents produced by them that show that they have any real dedication to social conservatism? 76.151.187.64 (talk) 22:27, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The fact that your question remains unanswered ... is the answer. Alternately seek and answer by looking at their last You-Tube video prior to the election. Four smug and confident fellows .... risibly, pathetically wrong. 2607:FA49:643E:A200:E4DD:2140:4140:8E64 (talk) 21:18, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Or the question was unanswered because 1) firsthand documents aren't what Wikipedia uses, and 2) the talk page is for discussing improvements to the article and is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject. -- Pemilligan (talk) 17:40, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]