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Spoiler in 'Cast and Characters'

The 'Cast and Characters' entry for Fred Tatasciore as Shaxs includes this: "Shaxs dies sacrificing himself for Rutherford at the end of the first season."

Plot (as opposed to general background) details would not typically be expected in this section, so this seems inappropriate. However, when I started to edit the page intending to remove it, I found this comment embedded: "Do not remove this. Wikipedia contains spoilers (see WP:SPOILERS). Removal will be reverted".

While it's true in general that Wikipedia contains spoilers, they would not generally be included *there*. This is clearly a plot detail, not character background, so it's irrelevant for this section, and thus inappropriate. (Clearly I'm not the first to think so, given the presence of the comment!). Suggest that it should be removed, as should the restriction on editing.

More generally... who gets to decide that changes to this specific bit of text will be reverted, and is it really appropriate for their authority to be used in that way? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7F:2C17:1400:9F20:8413:823D:CB52 (talk) 19:58, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Some may only expect spoilers to be in a plot section, though the third list item in the spoiler guideline's Why... section includes 'character descriptions' as an example of other sections that should also be expected to have spoilers based on the name. That said, no one editor gets to make final decisions on such matters. Rather than the 'removals will be reverted' comment, my preference would be to suggest that future editors obtain consensus on the talk page before removal of spoiler information (or to point to any related talk page discussion that already occurred, but this seems to be it). —ADavidB 00:02, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The fact that the character died in the first season is a pretty significant character detail, and per Adavidb we do call out this section as potentially having spoilers in the spoiler guidelines for Wikipedia. As for who gets to decide that changes to this specific bit of text will be reverted, while the wording of the comment can be debated, it is not uncommon for notes to be added in such instances where Wikipedia's rules are being consistently ignored by inexperienced editors. I wouldn't read that much into it. - adamstom97 (talk) 07:28, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Trolling is not okay, WP:SPOILER is not an excuse. Editors still don't get to just blurt out the secret about Luke Skywalker's father. This is supposed to be an encyclopedia and there are ways to make sure it is detailed and comprehensive without being abusive or hostile to readers. I made a small adjustment to the word order to start the sentence with the words At the end of the first season which keeps all the same information but gives readers a last chance to stop reading if they don't want to know yet (something I would have appreciated because I only wanted an introduction to the show). Of course I assume the edit was made in good faith and no one was being tactless and inconsiderate on purpose, but it is a surprising it had not been rewritten already. -- 109.79.72.153 (talk) 02:19, 21 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

There is no "trolling" here, we are presenting noteworthy information about the series because this is an encyclopaedia. We do not censor spoilers as you well know. - adamstom97 (talk) 03:38, 21 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"The fact that the character died in the first season is a pretty significant character detail" - No, it's first and foremost a plot detail. I suppose, you inserted the template, which not only has a debatable wording (its imho threatening) and is in violation of the prime direc... äh, WP rules, but also foremost has no basis in consensus. As such I ignored it, because as the first poster here said, it is plot and can and should be placed there. This is NOT about Spoilers. This is about the structure of the text. Two arguments to make my point clear: 1. If there is nothing more to be said about the given character, then don't say more, plain and simple. But dont add plot details just to say something, and dont add plot details, when you're talking about the character in general. 2. If constantly dying is a character trait (like w. Kenny/ South Park in the first seasons), then say so, but dont just list his deaths. As such you paint a picture of the character, which is consistent with the rest of the section. 95.90.129.104 (talk) 09:13, 15 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The fact that the character died is still a pretty significant character detail, even if it is also a plot point. - adamstom97 (talk) 22:04, 17 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Really? My opinions is that it's not actually a very significant character detail; he's a secondary character, after all, not a main character, and the fact that he died is mentioned once in a while, but it doesn't actually substantially affect the role he plays in the show's narratives. By comparison, the entry for Boimler doesn't mention that he served on the Titan and was cloned, or that Freeman was arrested for destroying Pakled Planet—both events of comparable significance to the narrative and comparable insignificance to the role the character plays on the show thenceforward. AJD (talk) 01:13, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Whether you consider him to be a secondary character or not, he is one of the starring characters in the show and we should have a short blurb about each starring character at this article. We don't need to go into all the plot details for every character, but as far as giving a brief introduction to who he is in the show I think it is fine to mention that he died and was resurrected since that is the only significant thing that has happened to him. - adamstom97 (talk) 02:09, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Good ol' Cerritos

McMahan wanted California-class ships to be named after Californian cities, and chose the city of Cerritos because he otherwise only knew it for local Cerritos Auto Square car dealership advertisements. He wanted to give the city "one more thing other than just being the home of the Auto Square".

Just had to say, that's one of the funniest things I've read lately. He's obviously in the right business. – AndyFielding (talk) 08:36, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion at Talk:List of Star Trek: Discovery episodes#Merge or keep?

I have started a discussion at Talk:List of Star Trek: Discovery episodes#Merge or keep? about how to handle that list. It could potentially impact how the list of episodes is being handled at this page as well. Any thoughts on this would be appreciated. Thanks, adamstom97 (talk) 18:47, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]