Talk:RCDE Stadium
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![]() | On 24 November 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved to Cornellà - El Prat Stadium. The result of the discussion was no consensus. |
Rename the page: Stage Front Stadium
[edit]Following the sponsorship agreement reached for the naming rights between RCD Espanyol de Barcelona and the North American company Stage Front, the RCDE Stadium is renamed as Stage Front Stadium.
Official references of the naming right agreement for the rename of the Stadium: https://www.rcdespanyol.com/en/new/welcome-to-stage-front-stadium/15684 https://www.stagefrontstadium.com https://as.com/futbol/primera/el-espanyol-firma-con-stage-front-por-un-estadio-al-estilo-usa-n/ https://www.mundodeportivo.com/futbol/20230612/1002022365/nace-stage-front-stadium.html https://www.europapress.es/deportes/futbol-00162/noticia-stage-front-stadium-nuevo-nombre-feudo-rcd-espanyol-20230612135254.html https://www.relevo.com/futbol/liga-segunda/espanyol-presenta-nuevo-patrocinador-estadio-20230612121357-nt.html
Thanks! 83.51.252.12 (talk) 07:00, 27 June 2023 (UTC)
Requested move 24 November 2023
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: no consensus. (closed by non-admin page mover) -- Maddy from Celeste (WAVEDASH) 10:29, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
Stage Front Stadium → Cornellà - El Prat Stadium – It makes no sense to have this article named under a temporary name due to sponsorship reasons, unlike every other article about Spanish stadiums. The article for the FC Barcelona stadium is Camp Nou (not Spotify Camp Nou), the article for Real Sociedad stadium is Anoeta Stadium (not Reale Arena), the article for Atlético de Madrid stadium is Metropolitano Stadium (not Civitas Metropolitano), and so on. 83.42.191.26 (talk) 16:50, 24 November 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. BegbertBiggs (talk) 23:58, 2 December 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 02:58, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
- Why the spaced hyphen? Should that be an en dash? — BarrelProof (talk) 23:05, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page moves. GiantSnowman 13:55, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
- Move to Cornellà-El Prat Stadium - I agree that a sponsored name should not be used, but the one proposed by the nom does not look right. GiantSnowman 13:57, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
- Cornellà–El Prat Stadium per MOS:ENBETWEEN? — BarrelProof (talk) 18:27, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
- Potato, potato... GiantSnowman 21:32, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
- Cornellà–El Prat Stadium per MOS:ENBETWEEN? — BarrelProof (talk) 18:27, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
- It should not be changed because there is no clear policy on wikipedia on this matter. Both criteria are valid. Some examples that demonstrate this are Bank of America Stadium, Gillette Stadium, FedExField, MetLife Stadium, SoFi Stadium, MHPArena, Red Bull Arena (Leipzig), Allianz Arena or Emirates Stadium.--Medol (talk) 10:12, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
- Plenty of RM consensus. GiantSnowman 21:32, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose. OP has presented no evidence that "Cornellà - El Prat Stadium" is the more commonly-used name. There is no policy-based reason not to use a sponsored name. 162 etc. (talk) 16:26, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose. Unlike Camp Nou, Anoeta, Metropolitano, the stadium has always had a sponsored name. Estadi Cornellà-El Prat was only used because there was no sponsor available at the time of opening and borrowed from its location. La Fuzion (K lo K) 20:41, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
- Relisting comment: Relist; evidence of what the WP:COMMONNAME is would be helpful in determining consensus BilledMammal (talk) 02:58, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
- Support a move of some kind. The majority of the "exceptions" provided above are either North American (where the sponsor name situation is significantly different) or have never used a non-sponsored name. O.N.R. (talk) 04:24, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose. Time to end this habit of violating WP:COMMONNAME policy for sports stadiums, just because people think they are temporary. Per WP:NAMECHANGES and most other policies, we go with what the sources are using at the time in question .And that's the current name. No need for any change. — Amakuru (talk) 13:04, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
- Addendum - since evidence was requested above, here are some recent sources using the current name: [1][2] — Amakuru (talk) 13:10, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
Rename the page: RCDE Stadium
[edit]RCDE Stadium is the correct name because RCD Espanyol terminated the naming rights agreement for the club's stadium with Stage Front Company on 1 July 2024. This is the Official statement: [1]
It is named RCDE Stadium in all wikipedia's languages.
- Articles with prior RM history should not be bold moved. See WP:PCM. Please start an RM. 162 etc. (talk) 15:24, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
- the name "Stage Front" is no longer existing in all sources and in all wikipedia's languages. i gave you an official statement from the club's website that they changed the name back to "RCDE Stadium" and you still saying should not be bold moved. your discussion was over when the contract with "Stage Front Company" was over. Here is the name from the stadium's official website: [2] Hako33 (talk) 08:24, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
- Per WP:PCM: "The discussion process is used for potentially controversial moves. A move is potentially controversial if either of the following applies:
- *there has been any past debate about the best title for the page;
- *someone could reasonably disagree with the move."
- Both of these criteria apply here. Your bold moves are disruptive. Start an RM. 162 etc. (talk) 15:59, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
- Your disagreement is wrong. I don't know how could you keep a name that's no longer exist just because of an old discussion. Hako33 (talk) 21:06, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
- Good grief. Please read WP:RM in its entirety and stop edit warring. 162 etc. (talk) 21:20, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
- I am not disruptive, you didn't convince me. Ask a neutral to judge between us. Hako33 (talk) 21:30, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
- Good grief. Please read WP:RM in its entirety and stop edit warring. 162 etc. (talk) 21:20, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
- Your disagreement is wrong. I don't know how could you keep a name that's no longer exist just because of an old discussion. Hako33 (talk) 21:06, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
- ^ "Official Club Statement: Termination of agreement with Stage Front". rcdespanyol.com. 1 July 2024. Retrieved 2 May 2025.
- ^ "RCDE Stadium". rcdestadium.com. Retrieved 3 May 2025.