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No mention of BLM?

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Why is there no mention of the fact that this is the incident that kick-started the Black Lives Matter movement? I see a refernce to BLM in the related articles but this was THE incident that made BLM into a prominent group. Any unbiased person who reads this, feel free to add it to the page, people should know that such a large movement was started over misinformation. 99.18.204.223 (talk) 23:51, 18 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, that's a weird thing to omit. I'll look into this tomorrow. Schierbecker (talk) 05:48, 19 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Still undone? Here are the sources from the BLM article which can be used to add the necessary text. I suggest its level of importance would place the information after, "... unrest in Ferguson (then add) when the movement called Black Lives Matter began their first massive street demonstrations." See Day, Elizabeth (July 19, 2015). "#BlackLivesMatter: the birth of a new civil rights movement". The Guardian. And see Luibrand, Shannon (August 7, 2015). "Black Lives Matter: How the events in Ferguson sparked a movement in America". CBS News. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.23.199.194 (talk) 20:47, 4 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I concur - this event was at the root of what is now known as 'BLM'. 172.250.237.36 (talk) 16:48, 22 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I absolutely agree. But certain people are keeping a close eye on this article to push right wing narratives. Some of them appear to have some pull around here too. MysticStyles (talk) 16:03, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Article being targeted by racist/white nationalist contributors

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Mike Brown was, objectively, a child at the time of his death. Several media outlets regularly referred to him as such while reporting on this story. Despite this, my edits to this article were repeatedly reverted by a racist troll, who is now threatening to have my ability to edit articles blocked. Be careful about adding factual information to this article, racists might target you too. MysticStyles (talk) 16:00, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Do sources refer to Michael Brown as a "child"? More importantly, you are not assuming good faith about your fellow contributors by calling them a "racist troll". – Muboshgu (talk) 16:09, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"One last point: I have zero tolerance for racists and Nazis. I will block you on sight"
I find this tidbit a bit ironic. I guess Mike Brown Sr. being quoted by mainstream sources several times isn't good enough for wikipedia. Whatever. You guys run the site, so you're the arbiters of truth when it comes to racist police killings. You win. Have a nice day!

MysticStyles (talk) 16:15, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You're editing this article from your point of view, which is against WP:NPOV, one of the core pillars of Wikipedia. Racism is abhorrent. The editors you are accusing of being "racist trolls" have shown no evidence of racism, but are upholding NPOV. Have a read of the policy to better understand what might help you be a constructive contributor here. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:21, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This was not homicide 184.155.118.38 (talk) 05:32, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

article is not neutral

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While this article has the posture neutrality (very long, with many details), almost all of the "facts" serve to exonerate Wilson and condemn Brown. It quotes ONLY discredited witness testimony condemning Wilson, and reports ONLY witness testimony exonerating him: repeatedly specifying that witnesses who exonerated him were "black" (an obvious attempt to deflect potential critique that the testimony was racially motivated). It repeats supposed "facts" exonerating Wilson, for instance at least twice citing St. Louis County prosecutor Wesley Bell's inconclusive investigation: it makes it sound as if Bell exonerated Wilson, whereas Bell in fact said that the investigation did not exonerate Wilson: “the question of whether we can prove a case at trial is different than clearing him of any and all wrongdoing.” I don't know whether the article is "being targeted by racist/white nationalist contributors," but the article is not neutral on its face, so should be reviewed by Wikipedia for factual accuracy and balanced viewpoint. 151.202.23.122 (talk) 03:18, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It may be helpful to know that wikipedia is overwhelmingly white and male. AcademicPerfection (talk) 18:26, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
along these lines, why is the height and weight of Brown and Johnson noted and not the height and weight of Wilson? 45.46.25.29 (talk) 22:41, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Problem in biography of Michael Brown

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Why is Michael Brown's height and weight listed in the 2nd sentence of his biography? Seems like it's there as justification for his murder? I have never seen height and weight in a biography before unless it is for a professional athlete (and rarely even then). In my opinion this violates Wikipedia's "neutral point of view" policy just in the placement of this information at this specific spot. It's no "backgroun information" - it's part of the legal case put forward by police officer as to why he killed Michael Brown and belongs in another section of the Wikipedia entry that deals with prosecutor and defense arguments. BestestC (talk) 18:35, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 22 May 2025

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This entire page needs to be edited to reflect the findings of the Attorney General of the United States, Eric Holder. Mr. Holder didn't like the original report which found that Michael Brown, through his own actions, was responsible for his death. Mr. Holder ultimately realized that the entire incident was Michael Brown's fault. ALL the witnesses stated that Brown was rushing the policeman when shot. In fact, the one witness who stated that Brown was on his knees with his hands up was ultimately brought back in for another interview; and when presented with all the other witness testimony she stated that the reason she made up her version was because she "wanted to be part of the converstation."

I strongly recommend reading Mr. Holders report in full and then starting over from the beginning with this twisted narrative. 2600:1012:A121:D949:1985:2C99:E87C:9BB0 (talk) 01:00, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Day Creature (talk) 01:10, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I know this is not a forum. But when it comes to these so called NPOV articles, specifically related to police shootings of black men in the last decade or so. There is a growing trend of ignoring the ACTUAL evidence so that police officers are AUTOMATICALLY guilty and the homicide victim is some sort of saint.
I would hope that the editors would consider their biases and be more honest.
This article HAS gotten better. But some editors want to make martyrs out of people like Mike Brown, George Floyd just to further divide us into, oppressors and the oppressed.
A simple goolge search at FBI.gov would tell you the real situation we are in. And those statisics dont lie.
Also,
I looked up Holders report. Its written like a true political ideolog. Instead of just "getting on with the facts" of Michael Brown case and what REALLY happened. He just rants his bad faith, race hustling, cliché nonsense. It IS Identity politics at its finest.
That's why we're in the state we are, with the new administration. With that being said. I'll stop my RANT (ha) and make a suggestion:
I believe we should include Shelby Steele's assessment of the Ferguson case. And Roland Fryer Jr.s findings as well.
Thank you 63.143.128.92 (talk) 15:35, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
A simple goolge search at FBI.gov would tell you the real situation we are in. And those statisics dont lie. ... and which statistics would those be? EvergreenFir (talk) 15:49, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]