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Association with Tulsi Gabbard - Section content

The RfC mentions that sectioin content be reverted to the version before the RfC, except for the deletion of Tulsi Gabbard has since distanced herself from SIF.

I saved the last version as below:

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Association to Tulsi Gabbard and her family

SIF received a great deal of media coverage when some columnists found that Tulsi Gabbard had been associated with the SIF.[1][2][failed verification] During her childhood, Tulsi Gabbard was influenced by SIF and considered Butler as her mentor.[3] In 2015, she acknowledged Butler as her guru in a video statement for an ISKCON anniversary event.[1][4] Her father, Mike Gabbard, a Hawaii State Senator, has also been associated with SIF[1][5][6] and his wife, Carol Gabbard, was the treasurer of the SIF.[5] Tulsi Gabbard has since distanced herself from SIF.[7][2] While she called Butler her guru in a 2015 video statement for an ISKCON event,[1][4] she commented, in 2017: “I’ve had many different spiritual teachers” and called Butler "essentially like a Vaishnava Hindu pastor".[8] A 2015 Honolulu Civil Beat review of records, internet postings and interviews has found "no evidence that Tulsi Gabbard is — or ever was — a Butler devotee".[9]

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Thanks. RogerYg (talk) 05:14, 4 March 2025 (UTC) RogerYg (talk) 05:14, 4 March 2025 (UTC)

Hi Humanengr (talk), I think we may update the section per WP:NPOV and WP:BLPBALANCE, after the RfC has been closed with vague guidance. Thanks. RogerYg (talk) 05:17, 4 March 2025 (UTC)
So you want to take up the dispute that resulted in the RfC? I suggest you rethink your approach. Sanctions apply. --Hipal (talk) 17:56, 4 March 2025 (UTC)
I am only following the guidance provide in RfC closure, and not disputing the RfC outcome. I accept the outcome, which is to remove the phrase that "Tulsi Gabbard distanced herself from SIF". Thanks. RogerYg (talk) RogerYg (talk) 10:02, 5 March 2025 (UTC)
Please note the RfC closure report below:
The essence of this in compact form is: (a) there is a consensus for the section described, (b) there is no consensus for what that section should be titled, (c) there is no consensus as to whether to include a "separation" or "distancing" statement in the section, however, the practical result may be that this should be omitted pending some future consensus since (it appears) omission was the stable version of the article.
The RfC closure guidance encourages future discussion to gain a future consensus on this issue. So, I am following the RfC guidance for developing a consensus on these issues. Thanks. RogerYg (talk) 10:07, 5 March 2025 (UTC)
You are ignoring subsequent discussion, and duplicating portions of it is disruptive. --Hipal (talk) 18:34, 5 March 2025 (UTC)
Hi Smiiikes (talk | contribs), Thanks for adding relevant balancing content, which is much needed in this section as discussed in RfC per WP:BLPBALANCE
In 2024, a spokesperson stated that Gabbard has "no affiliation with the Science of Identity Foundation" and described criticisms of Gabbard's faith as "false" and "bigoted."[10]
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I think it was wrong for other editor to revert your edit without any discussion, and you should add this important content back per WP:NPOV and WP:BLPBALANCE Thanks. 07:57, 11 March 2025 (UTC) RogerYg (talk) 07:57, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ a b c d e Sanneh, Kelefa (October 30, 2017). "What Does Tulsi Gabbard Believe?". New Yorker. Archived from the original on June 7, 2020. Retrieved January 13, 2019.
  2. ^ a b Bowles, Nellie (August 2, 2019). "Tulsi Gabbard Thinks We're Doomed". The New York Times. p. A1. Archived from the original on September 26, 2019. Retrieved September 21, 2019.
  3. ^ Grube, Nick (2024-12-10). "Senators Urged To Examine Gabbard's 'Deep and Intense' Ties To Hawaiʻi Sect". Honolulu Civil Beat. Retrieved 2024-12-12.
  4. ^ a b c Hurley, Bevan (2022-10-16). "Tulsi Gabbard's ties to secretive cult may explain her perplexing political journey". The Independent. Retrieved 2023-05-09.
  5. ^ a b c Bolante, Ronna (2004-08-01). "Who is Mike Gabbard?". Honolulu Magazine. Retrieved 2024-10-01.
  6. ^ Issenberg, Sasha (2021). The Engagement: America's Quarter-Century Struggle Over Same-Sex Marriage. Knopf Doubleday. pp. 112–114. ISBN 9781984898517.
  7. ^ "Tulsi Gabbard: Did British daily call Hinduism or ISKCON an 'obscure cult'?". The Times of India. November 21, 2024. as Gabbard matured, she began to distance herself from SIF. By her teenage years, she embarked on a spiritual journey that led her to fully embrace Hinduism, specifically the Vaishnava tradition. She has publicly stated that she no longer regards Butler as her guru and identifies instead with mainstream Hindu teachings centered on devotion to Krishna, the Supreme Lord in Vaishnavism.
  8. ^ McCarthy, Tom (March 19, 2019). "Who is Tulsi Gabbard? The progressive 2020 hopeful praised by Bannon and the right". TheGuardian.com. Archived from the original on May 20, 2019. Retrieved December 16, 2019.
  9. ^ Kaneya, Rui (March 16, 2015). "Tulsi Gabbard Still Dogged By Krishna Cult Rumors". Huffington Post. Retrieved December 14, 2024.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)
  10. ^ a b Grube, Nick (2024-12-10). "Senators Urged To Examine Gabbard's 'Deep and Intense' Ties To Hawaiʻi Sect". Honolulu Civil Beat. Retrieved 2024-12-12.
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