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Here's where I got the middle name of 'Pisani': Marinho

Good morning ,i really want to meet ANA MARIA ,I LOVE THE WOMAN😢😢😢 Tebogo monare (talk) 13:25, 7 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

11949603272 Tebogo monare (talk) 13:26, 7 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Surname "Pisani'

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Roberto Marinho never had in his legal name his mother's surname "Pisani". "Find a Grave" isn't a reliable source by the way. Dantadd (talk) 00:19, 2 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

When you want to change something as a name, *you* must provide a source. Here’s another source: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/obituaries/roberto-marinho-36898.html 1000mm (talk) 00:34, 2 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
And another one, this is a Brazilian government web page: https://www.al.ba.gov.br/historia-do-legislativo/titulos-e-condecoracoes/homenageados/271 1000mm (talk) 00:36, 2 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
One more, he company he founded: https://memoria.oglobo.globo.com/perfis-e-depoimentos/roberto-marinho-9055075 1000mm (talk) 00:37, 2 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You can check these two sources from his actual documents:

  1. Birth record of his son José Roberto Marinho: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSRD-N72W-N
  2. Death record of his son Paulo Roberto Marinho: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-D1HG-1N

It's well established that his legal name was only "Roberto Marinho". All these other sources attribute the maternal surname in an anachronistic act by assuming that he would also have the maternal surname as most Brazilians later began to have. Dantadd (talk) 00:46, 2 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Your links are locked behind login.
One of these "all the other sources" is a Brazilian governmental web page, the Legislative Assembly of Bahia.1000mm (talk) 01:12, 2 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You just have to do a quick free registration. Both are from actual state civil registration and not secondary sources. Dantadd (talk) 19:03, 2 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Here you can see a documento from the Ministry of Communications stating full names of those cited. Jump to page 3 and you'll see "ROBERTO MARINHO" with no "PISANI". His siblings are also listed without the PISANI, that they never had! And all those with more than one surname are listed with their full names:HERE. Dantadd (talk) 19:13, 2 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There’s no need to shout. That document shows his name at the time of the document was written. A person can change his/her name at any point in life, I did as a grown-up. The Legislative Assembly of Bahia, a Brazilian government states different than the over 50 year old document, so does the company he founded. 1000mm (talk) 01:03, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]