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Constanze

Please check the information about constanze: I believe more research has been done since Opus Ultimum and "Constanze Mozart..." and therefore this information is no longer quite correct. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.123.222.177 (talk • contribs) 03:23, 16 June 2007

Sections completed by Mozart-

In the Structure section, a corresponding list, describing which parts were written by Mozart, would be helpful. E.g. Introitus- all vocal and orchestral, completed by Mozart... Lacrimosa- FIrst eight bars completed by Mozart. etc.

Needs info on the two Requiem scores and their relationship

The Austrian National Library has two scores of the Requiem (also viewable online), what they call a "working score" and a "delivery score." The latter one, which is the score delivered to Walsegg in 1792, is all by Süssmayr in an attempted imitation of Mozart's hand. Currently the article has the misleading information, "The completed score, started by Mozart but largely finished by Süssmayr, was then dispatched to Count Walsegg complete with a counterfeited signature of Mozart and dated 1792."

German Wikipedia has a paragraph with the correct info. I will try to add a version of it here in the coming days. Junggai (talk) 09:18, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I finally got around to editing the relevant sections to reflect the information about the completion from the German article and adding a link to the two scores in the Austrian National Library. For one, there was an earlier misunderstanding here about the nature of the score delivered to Walsegg. It was started by Mozart, so the whole Introitus is in his handwriting and is thus an autograph up to that point, and the vocal parts and basso of the Kyrie are in his hand as well. That was all Mozart wrote in this score. Eybler (whose contribution was not quite accurately described before) added orchestral parts to Mozart's incomplete Kyrie. The rest of the delivery score, from the Dies irae onwards, is in Süssmayr's handwriting. The illustration in the article from the Dies irae is not from the delivery score, but contained with the rest of Mozart's sketches in the working score.

I wrote that summary here because I didn't find a good spot in the article to spell that out. If someone thinks it would be good to do so, feel free to use this info. Junggai (talk) 13:04, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

English Translation of Lyrics?

If I find a proper source for a translation of the lyrics can I add an English gloss? Finq (talk) 03:23, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No, please don't bother. The text is the usual Requiem mass, and the full text and translation can be found there. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:41, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Audio sample

I listened to one, Kyrie, and it's horrible. I don't think that readers should be told that this is what Mozart had in mind or what to expect in a current performance. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:15, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]