Talk:Petal
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Pl see discussion at Talk:Corolla. Pan Dan 19:34, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
What is the point of petas?
[edit]Huzzah. We all know what petals are. What they are for is the important question! Dokuhebi was here! :D (talk) 15:57, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
"Corona"
[edit]What does "corona" refer to in this section? Jarble (talk) 20:57, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
Edits to first sentence
[edit]diff Presenting "singular/plural reconciliation" as a "common sense improvement" needs explanation. For starters, reconciliation with what? Just plain Bill (talk) 15:18, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- "A petal is any modified leaf around..." < for the benefit of any edit warrior who is too lazy or incompetent to conceive and compose a concise revision of phrasing alleged to be clunky prose, stiff, opaque, and awkward (sic). Kent Dominic·(talk) 15:40, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- Good morning. What do you think was wrong with "Petals are modified leaves that surround the reproductive parts of flowers." ? How did adding needless words improve the prose? Just plain Bill (talk) 21:55, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- There was a significant problem with "any". In fact, all of the organs of flowers are thought to be derived from modification of leaves, including the reproductive parts, so starting from the apex, the petals are the third set, surrounding the reproductive parts as correctly stated, but the sepals form the fourth set. Plantsurfer 23:04, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- see Pelaz, Soraya et al. (2001) Conversion of leaves into petals in Arabidopsis. Current Biology, volume 11, Issue 3, pages 182 - 184 [1] Plantsurfer 23:21, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- What was the problem with "any (i.e., one, some, or all indiscriminately of whatever quantity; one or more — used to indicate an undetermined number or amount)"? Thus, "A petal is any modified leaf that forms an inner whorl surrounding the reproductive parts of flowers." My point still being that a discrepancy between the subject of article's title and the subject of the lede sentence ca:n
- confuse non-native English readers who may not be wholly familiar with the effect of adding an "s" in English language pluralization versus non-pluralization - cf "Pas" versus }Pass"; "As" versus "Ass"; "Politic" versus "Politics"; "Mean" versus "Means" etc.
- In the lede, "Petals" presents problems for readers who might otherwise wrongly infer that flowers always have more than one petal, which isn't true of, e.g., Calla Lily (Zantedeschia), Corn Flower (dogwood), and Anthurium (depending on whether the modified "leaf" is construed to be a spathe or a bract).
- Kent Dominic·(talk) 15:52, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
- There was a significant problem with "any". In fact, all of the organs of flowers are thought to be derived from modification of leaves, including the reproductive parts, so starting from the apex, the petals are the third set, surrounding the reproductive parts as correctly stated, but the sepals form the fourth set. Plantsurfer 23:04, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- Good morning. What do you think was wrong with "Petals are modified leaves that surround the reproductive parts of flowers." ? How did adding needless words improve the prose? Just plain Bill (talk) 21:55, 16 January 2025 (UTC)