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Palestinian Jews

Palestinian Jews should be mentioned in the lead at least once, their existence needs to be acknowledged. I imagine something like "After the Israeli Declaration of Independence, Palestinian Jews became Israeli citizens..." could be added at the end of the second paragraph. Mawer10 (talk) 01:14, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Should be mentioned where the Druze and Samaritans are mentioned. Both smaller minorities before immigration/different ethnogenesis JJNito197 (talk) 12:25, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Palestinian Christians are also a minority like Jews, both populations are equally significant historically. Mawer10 (talk) 01:18, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not a comparison and a completely subjective statement, but bring sources to the table and we can have a look. Did Jewish populations in Palestine ever identify as Palestinians? and does this ethnic identity transcend until today like with Muslims and Christians? And can you find a source which states the Jewish population of Palestine prior to the first Aliyah? Looking forward to working constructively. JJNito197 (talk) 09:36, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Palestinians as natives

This is removed again, along with bunch of sources by Pyramids09 [1].

I'll be reverting the change for now, since there was a previous talk page consensus. See Talk:Palestinians/Archive_24#Indigeneous

Let me know if this needs to go through an RfC. This has been discussed over and over. Bogazicili (talk) 17:36, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I also don't understand why sources such as Native Peoples of the World: An Encyclopedia of Groups, Cultures and Contemporary Issues were removed. Bogazicili (talk) 17:47, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Loss estimate of $300bn

The following claim is included in this article:"Recent estimates of the cost to Palestinians in property confiscations by Israel from 1948 onwards has concluded that Palestinians have suffered a net $300 billion loss in assets." This is also included in the lead of the article. The lead includes this claim and credits Perry Anderson, yet the citation included directly credits a different source for the claim; Anderson cited an analysis included in a book.^[1]

The book cited by Anderson includes 2 different valuations of losses from seizures in 1948(not 1948 onwards as claimed) with damages in 1948 prices, the first being meant as a framework for which to calculate the fair value of compensation. An arbitrary rate of 1.71% above inflation is chosen for illustration in the introduction to reach just under $300bn(2008 prices), but the analysis does not include any justification for this rate nor claims to calculate the present value, instead providing a framework to do so. Another estimate for losses is also included that reaches approximately $300bn(2008 prices) by assuming an arbitrary rate of 4% real growth. Neither of these provide an estimate for the value of losses, only the value for compensation for said losses which differs from simply calculating the value of assets seized in 1948 in modern prices by factoring in growth in the real value of assets over time.

Equating either to a "net $300 billion loss in assets" is incredibly misleading given that this is not what the estimates are. Anderson doesn't claim this in the article he wrote either, calling the estimates the "value of property…confiscated…and associated losses". Given this, the estimate should be placed in proper context, possibly including a note explaining the valuations. The valuation of the assets in 1948 prices should also be included. Originalcola (talk) 15:28, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Pinging editor who added this material. @Bogazicili Originalcola (talk) 15:30, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Originalcola: I didn't add that part. Check again. Or provide a diff please, was it re-added when I reverted something else? Bogazicili (talk) 19:06, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I guess I didn't look close enough when trying to find when it was. Somebody changed the layout of the lead at some point which made me think you added it when looking at past revisions. It was added back in 2016 by a retired editor.^[2] Originalcola (talk) 20:10, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Change Saudi Arabia's Palestinian population number in the textbox from 1,000 to 461,000, as is written in this source. Omar Hall (talk) 22:45, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: See WP:JOSHUAPROJECT; it is not a reliable source. Skitash (talk) 22:55, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The number of Palestinians in Saudi Arabia according to source used:

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Tisthefirstletter (talk) 13:19, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Done Cannolis (talk) 19:15, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttps://web.archive.org/web/20210501112400/https://newleftreview.org/issues/ii96/articles/perry-anderson-the-house-of-zion

[2] ttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Palestinians&oldid=710428165

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