Talk:Mustapic

On 13 January 2025, it was proposed that this article be moved to Mustapic. The result of the discussion was Move the 1st, No consensus for the 2nd.

Requested move 13 January 2025

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Move the 1st, No consensus for the 2nd. There is a general consensus to move Mustapic (disambiguation) to Mustapic and there is "no consensus" to move the second proposal. (closed by non-admin page mover) Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 12:44, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Mustapic (disambiguation) → Mustapic
Mustapić → Mustapić, Serbia

– The village named Mustapić (in Serbia) is not the primary topic. If you look at pageview data, the primary topic would seem to be Dan Mustapic. Even so, it's not strong enough to be the primary topic in google search though. Duckmather (talk) 16:28, 13 January 2025 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 20:51, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support 1, oppose 2. See WP:SMALLDETAILS. There is no evidence that the two New Zealanders are known by the accented Dan Mustapić or James Mustapić. 162 etc. (talk) 17:10, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose 2nd, unsure about 1st. As noted above the people don't appear to use the diacritic so the place appears to be the only use of the spelling variant but at the same time the absence of the diacritics may still refer to the place as the people are likely PTMs. Crouch, Swale (talk) 20:54, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This is a classic, I moved dozens of these over the years. A random settlement happens to get a bland stub that then ends up hogging the primary topic position for years, when actually the human name probably has larger long-term significance and broader usage overall. All pages with titles containing Mustapić actually already shows more South Slavic people with the surname, and it's most likely the New Zealanders are descended from similar origins. A Croatian onomastics website shows in this case thousands of people named that way just in Croatia, and records numerous migrations as well. (Support) A search for the name on hr: wiki shows another biography with the same name, a marathon runner from Bosnia. --Joy (talk) 12:50, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support Mustapic (disambiguation) → Mustapic per nomination, 162 etc. and Joy. No indication that the two-sentence stub delineating the village (population 740) is primary over the surname. Also support Mustapić → Mustapić, Serbia per nomination and Joy, although, in addition to "Xxxxx, Serbia", disambiguation under Category:Populated places in Braničevo District as well as under Category:Braničevo District geography stubs depicts various other forms, both comma-based and parenthetical. As an alternative option, would not oppose the village simply remaining at standalone "Mustapić" per 162 etc. and Crouch, Swale. Users researching the village will still find it listed under the proposed dab page header "Mustapic". —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 22:32, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The parenthetical form hasn't been used much after this 2016 discussion and similar ones, it's just never been cleaned up en masse (see also last January discussion). --Joy (talk) 13:13, 22 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Update: I think this discussion wasn't structured great from the start. The main idea by the proposer seems to have been to disambiguate "Mustapic", but we didn't have the disambiguation list updated first, so it wasn't clear just how ambiguous this term was. I did that with this edit a couple of days ago. (all-time mass views looks quite different now)

@SafariScribe @162 etc. @Crouch, Swale can we please proceed with disambiguation of Mustapic now?

(We can have a separate discussion later about whether to use that or Mustapić for the index name.) --Joy (talk) 10:14, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.