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Requested move 17 May 2018

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The result of the move request was: No move. Cúchullain ^t/c 16:50, 25 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Materialization (paranormal) → Materialization – Everything else at the disambiguation page is more of a dicdef than actually mentioned in the linked pages. This is the only actual article for the term. _{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 22:07, 17 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - fails the WP:ASTONISH test mostly due to many sci-fi usages. I also think the article might be misnamed, "materialization" was a word coined later (1870s or so) when more sophisticated spiritualists claimed to produce tangible "material" objects. Because of this, I suggest Manifestation (paranormal) as a better, broader term because it includes any evidence of spiritual presence, including simple audible or visual "apparitions", in addition to more complex "materializations". Google Ngram for evidence (hit the blue button if you don't see a graph). I think the article is conflating the two words in some spots, but I don't have access to several of the sources used to directly verify. -- Netoholic @ 00:56, 18 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose the sci-fi meanings will be far commoner for most readers than ghosts. In ictu oculi (talk) 07:03, 18 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- I usually hear "materialize" in the form of supernatural phenomena. e.g. "The ghost materialized in front of me." I dispute that the use of the term in sci-fi is "far more common". Rather than "dematerialized", teleported things are usually described as, well, teleported._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 08:16, 18 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. There's enough doubt here for disambiguation to be the best choice. Andrewa (talk) 01:26, 25 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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