Talk:Lashkar-e-Taiba

alleged involvement

LeT has claimed responsibility of some of these terrorist acts. Why still say "India accuses......." for other incidents?

Because as you said "some" of these acts. India has accused them for several things, infact if it were possible, it would probably blame the group for a lot of its problems. Regardless, there need to be sources for definite acts by the group. Btw, there is also a source needed for the "pamphlet" material that you added otherwise those sentences will be removed. I will leave the material as it is for now, but unless a source is provided, it is objectionable. Thanks. --Anonymous editor 02:20, Jun 26, 2005 (UTC)

Changed the meaning of Lashkar-e-Toiba to army of the pure, it had been changed by someone to a derogatory word in Hindi- fkh8

Muridke

@Ritwik Deuba: Firstly just as a response to your edit summary I suspect Vandalism – Rule 1 of Wikipedia, always assume WP:GOODFAITH. Never immediately start accusing people.

Assuming good faith (AGF) means assuming that people are not deliberately trying to hurt Wikipedia, even when their actions are harmful

Granted I didn't start a discussion, but the ONUS lies on you as well to start a discussion.

The reason for my removal is that the article isn't reliable in its reporting. The entire section relies on the sole article from Sky news. First of all the article uses videos from various, unknown, and niche TikTok accounts and links it to a supposed video of the compound following the Indian strike on it. That's not really what would be considered 'concrete evidence'.

Second of all, it references MEMRI and calls US-based research group that monitors terrorist threats. Of course what was omitted was that it's a pro-Israeli, US backed 'research group', aka. think-tank.

Thirdly, correct me if I'm wrong but the article doesn't actually state that the striked building, a mosque, was 'terror base-camp' of the LeT that the Indian government is bent on propagating. All it has reiterated that supposed accounts of supporters of a group (the "313 Brigade", which the article has stated that it's a proscribed terror group in Pakistan, but fails to reiterate the same about LeT) that may be linked to the LeT posted videos of the building after it was attacked.

It's misleading to then put all that under a section called "Muridke base camp" on an article about Lashkar-e-Tayyaba. نعم البدل (talk) 12:39, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

The Muridke camp has been written about in plenty of WP:RS. Sky News doesn't matter. Our article is not citing MEMRI anywhere. Take up your gripes with Sky News. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 14:41, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

Astonishingly, the Pakistani government provides overt support to the organization even though it has been declared a terrorist organization by the UN and the United States, among other countries. Pakistan's civilian government has also contributed to the organization; in the budget for the fiscal year of 2013-14, the current Pakistan Muslim League-led Punjab State Government published a grant of Rs. 61.35 million for the administration of JuD's training camp at Markaz-e-Tayyaba in Muridke as well as Rs. 350 million for a "knowledge park" at Muridke, among other JuD Punjab-based initiatives. Similarly, in 2009—10, the Pakistani Federal Government gave the organization-after it was declared a terrorist organization by the UN Security Council—more than Rs. 80.2 million purportedly for the administration of JuD facilities. Later, in 2010—11, the organization received two separate grants of Rs 79.8 million for the maintenance of six organizations located at LeT's headquarter in Muridke as well as a special grant of an additional Rs. 3 million for JuD's Dawah school system in seven Districts of Punjab.[155] More recently in May 2018, the Punjab government requested at least Rs. 1 billion for managing JuD and FIF properties because "the Federal government had not allocated any amount in this year's budget to run the JuD and FIF properties, taken over by the Punjab government." For this reason, the Punjab government wrote to "the federal finance ministry informing that it needs at least Rs 1 billion for the financial year (2018—19) for the purpose" of managing these assets.[156] This, in addition to unknowable state resources, such as the significant amount of state security provided to the organizations—which includes police protection as well as protection from the military and ISI—ensures the release of any activist who is detained by the police.[157]

So, getting "taken over by the Punjab government" just means that the money gets allocated to the Punjab government rather than JuD directly. That is one way to browbeat the FATF. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 14:54, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

The complex also hosts an annual convention or ijtema of Lashkar faithful and sympathisers from across Pakistan and indeed the world. By the turn of the century the ijtema at Muridke was drawing a congregation which over a week numbered several hundred thousand people.... The annual ijtema or congregation held at Muridke over a week also attracts hundreds of thousands of MDI/JuD faithful from across Pakistan, as well as potential new members and military recruits. The huge gathering also provides an opportunity for networking with foreign Islamist and jihadist groups. This writer attended the ijtema in 1999 and was struck both by the level of organisation required to accommodate and feed the influx of attendees, and by the unremitting ideological stress on jihad, most immediately against Hindu India but also including the United States and Zionist Israel. Projected onto one giant screen were maps and graphics detailing districts across Pakistan which had contributed shaheed or martyrs – each marked as a small light – in the conflict in Kashmir. The spread of lights was nationwide but revealed telling clusters in a relatively small number of districts in Punjab.[8] On one evening a radio greeting from a Lashkar unit said to be operating in Indian Kashmir was broadcast over the public address system.

-- Kautilya3 (talk) 17:16, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

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