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Why is all this information here?

Why does Kamboj Wiki not have any of this information? Who keeps deleting it? Look at all of this valuable information here why is no one adding it to the wiki page? IndianHistorianMan647582 (talk) 16:05, 25 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 23 December 2023

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add name of kamboj king Chadravarman who was in mahabharata 2402:8100:258B:99AD:0:0:256B:1EFA (talk) 12:18, 23 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not done This is a modern caste / community article not of the ancient one. The article of the ancient tribe is Kambojas. Make the request in the relevant talk page → Talk:Kambojas. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 13:13, 23 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Abandoned user draft

In July 2022 DharamaPala (talk · contribs) expanded the article, but that edit was reverted by Tbhotch.

DharamaPala subsequently made a further attempt at User:DharamaPala/sandbox. Please would an interested editor assess the material on that page, incorporate whatever may be useful, then blank that page as WP:COPYARTICLE, and leave a note here when done? – Fayenatic London 12:10, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

July 2025

@Kambojahistory: Stop edit warring and adding content based on unreliable British Raj era sources. Hence I've restored the last stable version. The onus is upon you to seek WP:CONSENSUS for every part you're trying to include here per WP:BRD. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 16:05, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I understand the concerns raised regarding the inclusion of the Kamboj rajput content and the reliance on British Raj era sources. I want to clarify that my intention has never been to disrupt or push any biased narrative. I have cited sources like Rose's Glossary of Tribes and Castes (Vol II, 1911), Census of India 1931, and recent NCBC reports (2022), which are commonly referenced in similar community articles.

I am open to feedback on improving the neutrality and tone of the content. I am not here to force edits but to collaborate and ensure historically verifiable information is properly presented. To avoid further conflict.

I kindly request fellow editors to guide on how the cited content can be included appropriately while adhering to WP:NPOV and WP:CONSENSUS. My only aim is to improve the article with sourced material.

u Kambojahistory (talk) 18:43, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'll edit the Kamboj page with the real sources and I'll not cut any information which is already on the article. Kambojahistory (talk) 18:46, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Request to restore edit

This isn't a place for you to argue with each other. Either submit an edit request using {{edit extended-protected}}, or stop posting here.

Hello @Agent VII as I had provided the all information with correct and real sources, and the article is of Kamboj, and in this article it it only hyping Muslims kambohs, but in the last version all the religions and famous personalities were getting equal hype, so I'm requesting to restore the edit. --Kambojahistory (talk) Kambojahistory (talk) 04:09, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Kambojahistory, Try to understand that British Era sources are not considered reliable (WP:RAJ). Sometimes, census data from that period are used, as in this article for being statistical, but are to be replaced whenever possible and typically discouraged. If you are willing to include reliable information, try Google Scholar and Google Books. Thanks. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 12:28, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

hey but I had also provided ncbc the government source. Kambojahistory (talk) 13:59, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Kambojs are not Rajputs, please stop vandalizing this page. IndianHistorianMan647582 (talk) 17:42, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I have sources, and you know what, im also a Rajput(Kamboj). Kambojahistory (talk) 18:10, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You are not Kamboj, Kambojs have never claimed to be Rajput. I have read through many sources, you have linked your IG in another thread. You are a Rajput trying to claim Kambojs. Please stop vandalizing the page, we Kambojs have nothing to do with Rajputs. Rajputs do not exist in Indian Punjab or Northern Haryana where we Kambojs live. Kambojs are related to Khatris, Jats and Pashtuns. I have checked the genetic results of Rajputs and Kambojs. We don't even share Haplogroups with them. IndianHistorianMan647582 (talk) 18:16, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@IndianHistorianMan647582oh really bro, I'm Kamboj rajput, my clan gotra is Mehrok/mirok. And now I get it you're the admin of that Kamboj page, which is spreading wrong information of Kambojs. Kambojahistory (talk) 18:20, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Why are you even on Wikipedia if you don't even know anything? I'm not the admin, there's no such thing as an admin on a Wikipedia page. We aren't Rajput, we are Kshatriyas but aren't Rajput. Not all Kshatriyas are Rajput. If you were Kamboj, how come you made an edit citing that Kambojs are low caste who are inferior to Jats without citing references? Please stop citing incomplete references and by the way I've been studying and researching about Kambojs/Kambojas for more than 10 years. I have a ton of references and citations. We aren't Rajput. We are our own unique community, also how can we be Rajput when we existed before them? Rajputisation process barely occurred in Punjab. Please stop vandalizing. IndianHistorianMan647582 (talk) 18:24, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@IndianHistorianMan647582 i had checked your user talk page, you had edited many pages without sources, so just dont debate here, im here with sources. Kambojahistory (talk) 18:13, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, for protecting the Kamboj Wikipedia page, it’s been vandalized several times. I have a lot of sources from Google books regarding about Kambojas but not sure if it meets Wikipedia citing standards. IndianHistorianMan647582 (talk) 17:33, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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I request adding a new subsection under the Demographics section titled (Caste Classification and Rajput Identity) to improve verifiability and align with WP:RAJ and WP:V policies.

Caste Classification and Rajput Identity

The Hindu and Sikh Kamboj communities are officially classified under Rajput subgroups. According to the National Commission for Backward Classes (NCBC) Annual Update Report 2022, Kamboj are listed as a Suryavanshi and Agnivanshi Rajput within OBC Classification.^[1]

Ethnographic research conducted by the Anthropological Survey of India, as documented in "People of India" by K.S Singh (1996), identifies the Kamboj as a Rajput subgroup linked to Suryavanshi and Raghuvanshi lineages in Punjab, Haryana and Himachal Pradesh.^[2] Colonial-era ethnographic works such as "Glossary of Tribes and Castes" by H.A Rose described the Kamboj as a martial community associated with Rajput clans in India.^[3]

In contemporary Classifications, the Hindu and some Sikh Kambojs are widely regarded as Rajputs and predominantly identity as Kamboj Rajputs in North India.

Thank you.--Kambojahistory (talk) 07:36, 31 July 2025 (UTC) Kambojahistory (talk) 07:36, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

^ "Annual Update Report 2022" (PDF). National Commission for Backward Classes (NCBC). Retrieved 31 July 2025.
^ Singh, K. S. (1996). People of India: Haryana, Punjab, Himachal Pradesh. Vol. XXIII. Anthropological Survey of India. pp. 1392–1393.
^ Rose, H. A. (1911). Glossary of the Tribes and Castes of the Punjab and North-West Frontier Province. Vol. II. Government Printing, Lahore. pp. 444–445.

[1] "Annual Update Report 2022" (PDF). National Commission for Backward Classes (NCBC). Retrieved 31 July 2025.

[2] Singh, K. S. (1996). People of India: Haryana, Punjab, Himachal Pradesh. Vol. XXIII. Anthropological Survey of India. pp. 1392–1393.

[3] Rose, H. A. (1911). Glossary of the Tribes and Castes of the Punjab and North-West Frontier Province. Vol. II. Government Printing, Lahore. pp. 444–445.

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