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Text and/or other creative content from this version of Jats was copied or moved into Jat with this edit on 17 July 2005. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists.

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No consensus, 4 October 2019, from Jat people to Jat.
Not moved, 8 April 2020, from Jat people to Jat (people).
Moved, 24 May 2022, from Jat people to Jats.

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Edit requests - May 2025

Hi Team , please Add Bhakal surname as sub cast of Hindu jaat. , Bhakal surname Hindu jaat's are living in Nagaur rajasthan mostly and according to my grandfather say's bhakal's native place is bhakrod Nagaur.

Jai Veer Teja Ji. Sampat Bhakal (talk) 20:16, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No original research please; read WP:OR! Please cite reliable source, per WP:RS, WP:V. Ekdalian (talk) 06:45, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Under the Muslim Jats portion of history, please add mention of:

The Mughal Grand Vizier Saadullah Khan, a Thahim Jat from Chiniot, who was a humble farmer who rose to become an extremely respected and powerful noble in the Mughal court.^[1]^[2]^[3]^[4]^[5] His descendants include Hifzullah Khan (respected governor of several provinces)^[6]^[7]^[8], Mutawassil Khan (the Nawab of Bijapur)^[9]^[10]^[11]^[12], and Muzaffar Jang Hidayat (the third Nizam of Hyderabad).^[13]^[14]^[15]^[16]
The prominent Pindari chief, governor, and general, Chitu Khan, who plundered the domains of the Nizams, Rajputs, Marathas, and British, becoming de-facto independent. He played a vital role in the Pindari War (an extension of the larger Third Anglo-Maratha War); his fiercely anti-British sentiments led to the British giving him no clemancy.^[17]^[18]^[19]^[20]^[21]

Please also include some part of Muslim Jat history in the opening paragraph of this article, just as you have done for the Hindu Jats (mentioning Bharatpur's formation) and the Sikh Jats (mentioning how they helped militarize the Sikh religion). I think mentioning Saadullah Khan and/or the Rohilla dynasty would suffice.

Ironborn392 (talk) 03:21, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Partly done I added the content to the body but didn’t change the lede. Thepharoah17 (talk) 02:25, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Hussain, Ghulam (August 2019). "Understanding Hegemony of Caste in Political Islam and Sufism in Sindh, Pakistan". Journal of Asian and African Studies. 54 (5): 729. doi:10.1177/0021909619839430.
^ Journal of Central Asia. Centre for the Study of the Civilizations of Central Asia, Quaid-i-Azam University. 1992. p. 84. Retrieved 30 July 2022. "Sadullah Khan was the son of Amir Bakhsh, a cultivator of Chiniot. He belonged to a Jat family. He was born on Thursday, the 10th Safar 1000 A.H./1591 A.C."
^ Narang, Kirpal Singh; Gupta, Hari Ram (1969). "Political History of the Punjab in the Mughal Times and the Relations of the Mughal Emperors with the Sikh Gurus". History of the Punjab: 1500–1858 (2nd ed.). Delhi: U.C. Kapur. p. 167. OCLC 8793622. The other great Punjabi of the Mughal times is Saadullah Khan.
^ Grewal, J. S. (1974). "The Historian's Panjab". Miscellaneous Articles. Amritsar: Guru Nanak University. pp. 1–10. OCLC 34606247.
^ Kinra, Rajeev (8 October 2015). Writing Self, Writing Empire: Chandar Bhan Brahman and the Cultural World of the Indo-Persian State Secretary. University of California Press. p. 78. doi:10.1525/luminos.3. ISBN 978-0-520-28646-7.
^ Lari, Suhail Zaheer (1994). "The Mughals". A History of Sindh. Oxford University Press. pp. 138–139. ISBN 978-0-19-577501-3.
^ Sufi, G. M. D. (1974). Kashīr, Being a History of Kashmir from the Earliest Times to Our Own. Light & Life Publishers. p. 127, 353: The Raja of Jammu broke out into open revolt, and was reduced to submission by Hifzullah Khan who had succeeded Ibrahim Khan in 1686 [...] 1690: Hifzullah Khan hands over charge to Muzaffar Khan as Subadar of Kashmir.
^ Hadi, Nabi (1995). Dictionary of Indo-Persian Literature. Abhinav Publications. ISBN 978-81-7017-311-3. Deputy Governor of Punjab, Nawwab Hifz Ullah Khan
^ Khan, Yusuf Husain (1963). The First Nizām: The Life and Times of Nizāmu'l-Mulk Āsaf Jāh I. Asia Publishing House.
^ Singh, Nagendra Kr (2001). Encyclopaedia of Muslim Biography: India, Pakistan, Bangladesh. A.P.H. Publishing Corporation. ISBN 978-81-7648-235-6. Mutawassil Khan Bahadur Rustam Jang, son of Hifz Ullah, son of Sa'd Ullah Khan Shahjahani
^ Awrangābādī, Shāhnavāz Khān (1979). The Maāt̲h̲ir-ul-umarā: Being Biographies of the Muḥammadan and Hindu Officers of the Timurid Sovereigns of India from 1500 to about 1780 A.D. Janaki Prakashan. p. 647.
^ Rao, Vasant D. (1968). Studies in Indian History: Dr. A. G. Pawar Felicitation Volume. Y. P. Pawar. p. 241.
^ Beveridge H. (1952). The Maathir Ul Umara Vol-ii (1952). The Calcutta Oriental Press Ltd. p. 647.
^ Malik, Zahiruddin (1977). The Reign of Muhammad Shah, 1719-1748. Asia Publishing House. p. 227. ISBN 9780210405987.
^ M. A. Nayeem (2000). History of Modern Deccan, 1720/1724-1948: Political and administrative aspects. Abul Kalam Azad Oriental Research Institute. p. 38.
^ Sarojini Regani (1988). Nizam-British Relations, 1724-1857. Concept Publishing Company. ISBN 9788170221951.
^ Roy, Mahendra Prakesh (1973). Origin, Growth, and Suppression of the Pindaris. Sterling Publishers.
^ Gott, Richard (2011). Britain's Empire: Resistance, Repression and Revolt. Verso Books. ISBN 9781844677382.
^ R.S. Chaurasia (2004). History of the Marathas. Atlantic Publishers. pp. 158–159. ISBN 978-81-269-0394-8.
^ Martine van Woerkens (2002). The Strangled Traveler. University of Chicago Press. p. 25. ISBN 9780226850856.
^ McEldowney, Philip (1966). Pindari Society and the Establishment of British Paramountcy in India. University of Wisconsin.

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For adding Clan

Under the bulletin subsection of Clan, Respectively add one of the missing clan correlated to Babar-Akali sept of midtown village known as Lehal Jats, for more information , see the incited referable booklet mentioned bellow

Nijjar, Bakhshish Singh (1987). History of the Babar Akalis. ABS Publications. p. 205. ISBN 978-81-7072-010-2. Mananhana,?* is a small village, owned by Lehal Sikh-Jats, situated on the Phagwara-Mahalpur road,

2402:8100:2B67:2F31:21AF:480C:4416:AF8 (talk) 19:56, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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For Adding a Patrilineal Saharan (Saran) between the subsection of Clan

To do so, i want to enlist a clan called Saran consolidated among the numerous other branch of Jats, However it some times distinctively transliterated as Saharan ^[1]nevertheless their is very subliminal mentioning about their predatory historical recordation, but it believed they are one of the oldest remaining Jats from former region of Jangladesh^[2]. 2402:8100:2B67:2F31:21AF:480C:4416:AF8 (talk) 20:22, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Hanks, Patrick; Lenarčič, Simon; McClure, Peter (2022). Dictionary of American Family Names. Oxford University Press. ISBN 978-0-19-024511-5. Indian (Punjab): Sikh name from Sanskrit šaraṇa 'refuge sanctuary' based on the name of a Jat tribe
^ Singh, Vir (2007). The Jats: Their Role & Contribution to the Socio-economic Life and Polity of North & North-west India. Low Price Publications. p. 64. ISBN 978-81-88629-68-8.

Not done for now: Only clans with existing articles are included in the list. – DreamRimmer ■ 11:52, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge 'Muslim Jats' content with this page

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We should merge Muslim Jats content into this page, as the only true difference is that their article expands on the history and demographics, which is something we can easily add here.

Ironborn392 (talk) 20:54, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit extended-protected}} template. See WP:MERGEPROP for how to propose a merge. Perception312 (talk) 19:31, 5 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Understood, sorry for the hasty request. Ironborn392 (talk) 23:23, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Disputed image, requesting change - July 2025

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The image with the caption of "Hindu Jat Maharaja of Bharatpur, 1882", found in the Hindu Jat's history section of this article, is arguably disputed. It is also used for the image2 of the Nawab of the Bahawalpur State, Nawab Muhammad Bahawal Khan Abbasi V Bahadur (1883–1907). Please refrain from using the above image to avoid dispute.

Instead, we can use this image3 for "Hindu Jat Sardars of Rajpootana" (different from any of the ones being used).

Ironborn392 (talk) 16:45, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

References

Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit extended-protected}} template. Dahawk04 (talk) 18:33, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Understood, sorry for the hasty request. Ironborn392 (talk) 23:23, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Add Hooda to the list of Jat clans, it is a very prominent gotra of Jats in Haryana, Rajasthan and Uttar Pradesh Rockarmy (talk) 16:16, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Dahawk04 (talk) 19:00, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Hussain, Ghulam (August 2019). "Understanding Hegemony of Caste in Political Islam and Sufism in Sindh, Pakistan". Journal of Asian and African Studies. 54 (5): 729. doi:10.1177/0021909619839430.

[2] Journal of Central Asia. Centre for the Study of the Civilizations of Central Asia, Quaid-i-Azam University. 1992. p. 84. Retrieved 30 July 2022. "Sadullah Khan was the son of Amir Bakhsh, a cultivator of Chiniot. He belonged to a Jat family. He was born on Thursday, the 10th Safar 1000 A.H./1591 A.C."

[3] Narang, Kirpal Singh; Gupta, Hari Ram (1969). "Political History of the Punjab in the Mughal Times and the Relations of the Mughal Emperors with the Sikh Gurus". History of the Punjab: 1500–1858 (2nd ed.). Delhi: U.C. Kapur. p. 167. OCLC 8793622. The other great Punjabi of the Mughal times is Saadullah Khan.

[4] Grewal, J. S. (1974). "The Historian's Panjab". Miscellaneous Articles. Amritsar: Guru Nanak University. pp. 1–10. OCLC 34606247.

[5] Kinra, Rajeev (8 October 2015). Writing Self, Writing Empire: Chandar Bhan Brahman and the Cultural World of the Indo-Persian State Secretary. University of California Press. p. 78. doi:10.1525/luminos.3. ISBN 978-0-520-28646-7.

[lari-6] Lari, Suhail Zaheer (1994). "The Mughals". A History of Sindh. Oxford University Press. pp. 138–139. ISBN 978-0-19-577501-3.

[Sufi-7] Sufi, G. M. D. (1974). Kashīr, Being a History of Kashmir from the Earliest Times to Our Own. Light & Life Publishers. p. 127, 353: The Raja of Jammu broke out into open revolt, and was reduced to submission by Hifzullah Khan who had succeeded Ibrahim Khan in 1686 [...] 1690: Hifzullah Khan hands over charge to Muzaffar Khan as Subadar of Kashmir.

[8] Hadi, Nabi (1995). Dictionary of Indo-Persian Literature. Abhinav Publications. ISBN 978-81-7017-311-3. Deputy Governor of Punjab, Nawwab Hifz Ullah Khan

[9] Khan, Yusuf Husain (1963). The First Nizām: The Life and Times of Nizāmu'l-Mulk Āsaf Jāh I. Asia Publishing House.

[10] Singh, Nagendra Kr (2001). Encyclopaedia of Muslim Biography: India, Pakistan, Bangladesh. A.P.H. Publishing Corporation. ISBN 978-81-7648-235-6. Mutawassil Khan Bahadur Rustam Jang, son of Hifz Ullah, son of Sa'd Ullah Khan Shahjahani

[:0-11] Awrangābādī, Shāhnavāz Khān (1979). The Maāt̲h̲ir-ul-umarā: Being Biographies of the Muḥammadan and Hindu Officers of the Timurid Sovereigns of India from 1500 to about 1780 A.D. Janaki Prakashan. p. 647.

[12] Rao, Vasant D. (1968). Studies in Indian History: Dr. A. G. Pawar Felicitation Volume. Y. P. Pawar. p. 241.

[13] Beveridge H. (1952). The Maathir Ul Umara Vol-ii (1952). The Calcutta Oriental Press Ltd. p. 647.

[14] Malik, Zahiruddin (1977). The Reign of Muhammad Shah, 1719-1748. Asia Publishing House. p. 227. ISBN 9780210405987.

[15] M. A. Nayeem (2000). History of Modern Deccan, 1720/1724-1948: Political and administrative aspects. Abul Kalam Azad Oriental Research Institute. p. 38.

[16] Sarojini Regani (1988). Nizam-British Relations, 1724-1857. Concept Publishing Company. ISBN 9788170221951.

[17] Roy, Mahendra Prakesh (1973). Origin, Growth, and Suppression of the Pindaris. Sterling Publishers.

[18] Gott, Richard (2011). Britain's Empire: Resistance, Repression and Revolt. Verso Books. ISBN 9781844677382.

[19] R.S. Chaurasia (2004). History of the Marathas. Atlantic Publishers. pp. 158–159. ISBN 978-81-269-0394-8.

[20] Martine van Woerkens (2002). The Strangled Traveler. University of Chicago Press. p. 25. ISBN 9780226850856.

[21] McEldowney, Philip (1966). Pindari Society and the Establishment of British Paramountcy in India. University of Wisconsin.

[22] Hanks, Patrick; Lenarčič, Simon; McClure, Peter (2022). Dictionary of American Family Names. Oxford University Press. ISBN 978-0-19-024511-5. Indian (Punjab): Sikh name from Sanskrit šaraṇa 'refuge sanctuary' based on the name of a Jat tribe

[23] Singh, Vir (2007). The Jats: Their Role & Contribution to the Socio-economic Life and Polity of North & North-west India. Low Price Publications. p. 64. ISBN 978-81-88629-68-8.

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