Talk:James O'Keefe
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Commanders executive
[edit]O'Keefe media just got a top executive of the Washington Commanders fired. Probably should be mentioned. There are no allegations that the video was "deceptively and selectively edited," LOL. [1] 152.130.15.15 (talk) 15:43, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- Well, it was deceptive by definition. Remind me to frisk anyone I take on a date. O3000, Ret. (talk) 16:02, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- And, most of the honey traps used by O'Keefe target gay men. The sources haven't addressed this, and I doubt they ever will because of political correctness, but political operatives and spies have a history of targeting homosexuals. It's how the Soviets turned the Cambridge Five, for example. 152.130.15.15 (talk) 16:18, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- The motivation for other O'Keefe acts has generally been obvious. Do any RS indicate why he decided to mess up this man's life? O3000, Ret. (talk) 17:30, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- And, most of the honey traps used by O'Keefe target gay men. The sources haven't addressed this, and I doubt they ever will because of political correctness, but political operatives and spies have a history of targeting homosexuals. It's how the Soviets turned the Cambridge Five, for example. 152.130.15.15 (talk) 16:18, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
Summer Encampment 2023
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According to Justin Leslie of https://justintegrity.net, James Edward O’Keefe III went to the Bohemian Grove in the summer of July, 2023. There is evidence that Justin provides in his documentary https://justintegrity.net/project-whistleblower/. The Bohemian Grove is a Satanic gathering of only wealthy males, notorious males, high profile males, and other males around the globe held once a year in July. Citation: Just Integrity. (2023). Just Integrity Network. Just Integrity. https://justintegrity.net/ WhitePapertowel (talk) 22:56, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made.
- This does not appear to be a reliable source. --AntiDionysius (talk) 23:35, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
- How about now? WhitePapertowel (talk) 00:01, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
- The issue wasn't the formatting of the citation, the issue is the source itself. See this page for some explanation of what a reliable source is, for Wikipedia purposes. AntiDionysius (talk) 00:04, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
- The source is reliable. WhitePapertowel (talk) 00:06, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
- It really isn't. "Reliable" has a specific meaning in the context of Wikipedia, and this does not meet its requirements.
- On the face of it, it's just some guy writing on a website, which isn't a reliable source. Anyone can make a website and call themselves an "independent journalist". If you click that link I just posted, you'll see that Wikipedia relies on publications with some kind of editorial oversight and/or reputation for accuracy.
- So that's a bad start. But the fact that the website is full of conspiracy theories about Covid etc means that this website doesn't just lack an established reputation for accuracy, there is evidence that it is regularly inaccurate. AntiDionysius (talk) 00:12, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
- Well, I submitted screenshots of the evidence to Wikimedia commons. WhitePapertowel (talk) 01:32, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
- Unfortunately Wikipedia also has a policy against original research; facts, evidence etc must have been published in reliable sources to be used in Wikipedia articles. User-uploaded evidence is not something we can use, I'm afraid. AntiDionysius (talk) 06:37, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
- If you watch the project whistleblower documentary, James Edward O’Keefe III is on the record stating that he “…went to this Bohemian Club.” How much proof, evidence, and reliable support do you need? WhitePapertowel (talk) 23:52, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
- This is a reliable source. WhitePapertowel (talk) 23:53, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
- And how much more empirical evidence do you need to understand that James Edward O’Keefe III went to that summer encampment of 2023? WhitePapertowel (talk) 23:56, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
- If you watch the project whistleblower documentary, James Edward O’Keefe III is on the record stating that he “…went to this Bohemian Club.” How much proof, evidence, and reliable support do you need? WhitePapertowel (talk) 23:52, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
- Unfortunately Wikipedia also has a policy against original research; facts, evidence etc must have been published in reliable sources to be used in Wikipedia articles. User-uploaded evidence is not something we can use, I'm afraid. AntiDionysius (talk) 06:37, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
- Well, I submitted screenshots of the evidence to Wikimedia commons. WhitePapertowel (talk) 01:32, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
- The source is reliable. WhitePapertowel (talk) 00:06, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
- The issue wasn't the formatting of the citation, the issue is the source itself. See this page for some explanation of what a reliable source is, for Wikipedia purposes. AntiDionysius (talk) 00:04, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
- How about now? WhitePapertowel (talk) 00:01, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
- The fact that it is not a reliable source has been explained already. I suggest that you re-read it. Also, I don't think anyone is gonna waste their time watching that "documentary". --McSly (talk) 00:19, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/project-veritas-james-okeefe-rise-fall-1235036748/ What about this source? Is it a reliable source? Thank you. WhitePapertowel (talk) 23:32, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- Probably interesting. But, "According to a 2021 RfC discussion, there is unanimous consensus among editors that Rolling Stone is generally unreliable for politically and societally sensitive issues reported since 2011"[WP:ROLLINGSTONEPOLITICS ] O3000, Ret. (talk) 00:03, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
- Does that mean Rolling Stone was considered a reliable source before 2011? By implication to me at least it was considered a reliable source before 2011. How can it change from being a reliable source to a non-reliable source? And why is it generally unreliable for politically and societally sensitive issues reported since 2011? WhitePapertowel (talk) 16:37, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- Probably interesting. But, "According to a 2021 RfC discussion, there is unanimous consensus among editors that Rolling Stone is generally unreliable for politically and societally sensitive issues reported since 2011"[WP:ROLLINGSTONEPOLITICS ] O3000, Ret. (talk) 00:03, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
What is encyclopedia-worthy of O'Keefe one time attending the secret Bohemian Grove confab? I'm not seeing the point here. -- M.boli (talk) 16:57, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- The public has the right to know that he went there. That’s the point. WhitePapertowel (talk) 14:37, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- He exposes these corrupt agencies, organizations, institutions, people, etc. and he is holding them accountable to what these people say on the record in an undercover investigative audio and video recording. Is it not corrupt for attending the Bohemian Grove and not being held accountable as to why he attended? He is considered by some as the king of investigative journalism. Why can’t he be held accountable? If he went there to expose what the Bohemian Grove is and was about, wouldn’t he have already exposed it by now? WhitePapertowel (talk) 14:43, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- It is encyclopedia-worthy because that is the thing, the secret Bohemian Grove is secret. And if it’s that secret, why didn’t he already expose that place and the people who attend that summer encampment? Which it seems it’s pretty secret that not even the king of investigative journalism seems to have evidence that he will or intend on exposing what happens there. WhitePapertowel (talk) 14:46, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
Intelligence Agency Board Takeover
[edit]In the interest of transparency, there needs to be some mention of the fact that the board was infiltrated and the takedown of O’Keefe was in response to his refusing to share information with DoD agencies. Nousernamesreallyremaining (talk) 12:23, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
- Do you have any reliable sources? A quick google search found nothing.
- Note also that your use of "in the interest of transparency" conventionally means that you were one of the perpetrators of this act, and are being transparent about it. -- M.boli (talk) 14:08, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
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This is an extremely biased page that is nothing but slandering james
He doesn't edit his videos to create deception. He is doing proper journalism and doesn't edit anything out. 2600:1001:B14F:A4E0:5590:E8A5:E892:B21B (talk) 11:18, 15 June 2025 (UTC)
- No edit proposed, marking as complete. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 12:14, 15 June 2025 (UTC)
- See FAQ Q4 at the top of this page. O3000, Ret. (talk) 12:15, 15 June 2025 (UTC)
- Your right! I read the article & it is most certainly biased. I didn't know who he was, but I will do my own investigation on him now. True journalism is gone forever I'm afraid, & only ones emotional feeling's are left. 2600:6C52:417F:8743:D86D:48D0:EE56:1BA (talk) 05:36, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
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