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A fact from Flag of Angola appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 27 April 2025 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the machete in the flag of Angola (pictured) symbolizes peasants, agriculture, and the country's war of independence?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2025/April. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Flag of Angola.

2003 proposal

"Others are of the opinion that the proposed flag cannot be seen as uniquely Angolan because it resembles the flag of Costa Rica, the flag of Thailand and the flag of North Korea."'

Either someone needs to get some sort of reference to back this up or it has to be deleted as POV and original research methinks. Horses In The Sky ^{talk contributions}

The Angolan Press Agency reported these comments according to Flags of the World - http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/ao!.html

Among the chosen symbols, which took three years to analyse, the citizens manifested more skeptical about the new flag proposal, defending that the country should adopt an exclusive flag, which is not the case of the one that has been chosen, since it is very similar to the flags of several countries and is not exclusive in terms of colours. During the phone-in session, callers said things such as "You deputies (MP's) will not copy a flag from other countries (...)".

As regard the similarity with the flag of Costa Rica, the PLD deputy (Manuela Santana - my note) explained that the commission did not define criteria for the public contest from which they got the chosen proposal, allowing contestants to design their flags as they pleased. "That is why we did not have a lot of choice", she said.

I've added this link as citation, and removed references to the Thailand and North Korea flags. Hope this is ok. Rugxulo 20:58, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks that'll do nicely. --Horses In The Sky 21:49, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Slow motion edit war

There seems to be a slow motion edit war on this page where one or more anonymous editors (IPs are mostly similar) are attempting to claim that the "proposed flag" is the country's actual flag without citing any sources. Some of us doing RC patrol have been reverting these edits as unsourced changes, but it would be great if someone with knowledge of this subject could improve the sourcing of this article and clarify what truth, if anything, is behind these claims. Thanks. Zachlipton (talk) 08:59, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

That's the 2012 Flag Vandal -- see previous discussion on Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Heraldry_and_vexillology#strange_anonymous_IP_vandal . Doesn't cause much damage, but is definitely annoying... AnonMoos (talk) 14:40, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Relationship with the USSR flag?

The leed postulates a relationship between the Flag of Angola and the USSR Flag:

"It features a yellow half gear wheel crossed by a machete and crowned with a star, chosen to look similar to the Emblem of the USSR flag."

I am not sure if is the star that is supposed to look similar to the USSR Flag or the entire emblem of the Flag of Angola? The sentence is ambiguous.

Also, I don't think the sentence is true in any interpretation. If it is true, could someone please provide a credible reference AND explanation. I don't see why the USSR should have inspired the Angolan flag. If true, it needs to be explained in the article as it is a controversial claim.

My best guess is that the Emblem on the Flag of Angola is inspired by the Emblem of Communism and in this respect, the star is inspired by the Red Star. That would be the most obvious and straightforward explanation. (See also the pages Hammer and sickle and Communist symbolism)

RhinoMind (talk) 19:05, 25 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Back. The issue has remained unaddressed for more than a month now so I have removed the controversial and unsourced statement from the article. RhinoMind (talk) 23:45, 31 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Color Sourcing

The color section has no listed source, which wouldn't be remarkable except that the colors are noticeably different from the IOC 2012 supplement that is used as a source for so many other articles (Bangladesh citation 10). LOC2012_ITR2101_Flags_Manual_Supplement.pdf, on page 12, puts the Pantone colors as 186 C (red) and 109 C (yellow). Vollink (talk) 02:02, 18 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I recently came across a new source for the colors of the Angolan flag, Symbols Nacionais da Republic de Angola: Manual de Normas Gráficas e Protocolares from 2011 which defines the colors differently by the Angolan government. It gives Pantone, CMYK, and RGB specifications for the national flag, the national emblem, and the Presidential flag.The red is PMS (Pantone Matching System) 186C, the yellow 116C and the black Process Black. Brpellis (talk) 03:29, 21 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Flag colors are usually specified in a device-independent system, while computer screen RGB colors are inherently device-dependent... AnonMoos (talk) 17:13, 21 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

GA review

Passed. Remsense ‥ 论 23:37, 24 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Nominator: Yue (talk · contribs) 07:31, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: Remsense (talk · contribs) 23:49, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

One of my favorite national flags, of a country I'm coincidentally learning more about presently. Don't mind if I do.

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@Yue: the bit in the footnote The hexadecimal equivalents are taken from SchemeColor.com, which uses the same values for the other colour codes. would seem unnecessary to me, as I would consider mere conversion between decimal and hexadecimal numbers as safely WP:CALC.

@Remsense: Replaced that explanatory footnote with just the two sources it cited. Yue🌙 22:59, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Remsense: Pinging just in case you forgot; not in a rush at all. Yue🌙 20:11, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies about this, I just became able to edit again and will be wrapping this up immediately. Remsense ‥ 论 22:03, 24 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Spot check

Article (unproblematically) cites predominately primary sources. Our secondary sources are Smith 2001, Klinghoffer 2019, Guimaraes 2016, Escórcio 2020, and Pearce 2015. I checked every claim cited to these, and and they all check out. I don't read Portuguese, but I checked one citation from those to each section of the Manual of Graphic and Protocol Standards (Government of Angola 2011) and machine translation safely verifies. Remsense ‥ 论 23:20, 24 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by SL93 talk 21:23, 20 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Flag of Angola

... that the machete in the flag of Angola (pictured) symbolizes peasants, agriculture, and the country's war of independence?

Source: Annex I of "Constitution of the Republic of Angola" (PDF). Luanda: Government of Angola. 2010. Archived from the original (PDF) on 1 June 2019. Retrieved 16 January 2025.

ALT1: ... that the flag of Angola (pictured) features a machete symbolizing peasants, agriculture, and the country's war of independence? Source: Same as ALT0.
ALT2: ... that a proposal to replace the flag of Angola (pictured) in 2003 featured a sun design based on ancient rock paintings? Source: "Features of New National Flag". Angola Press News Agency. 27 August 2003. Archived from the original on 5 January 2004. Retrieved 8 February 2025.
ALT3: ... that the largest physical flag of Angola (pictured) weighs 20 tonnes and can withstand winds of up to 200 kilometres per hour? Source: "Içada Bandeira-Monumento no Museu da História Militar em Luanda" [Flag-Monument Hoisted at the Military History Museum in Luanda] (in European Portuguese). Embassy of the Republic of Angola in Portugal. 12 November 2015. Retrieved 8 February 2025.
Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/To Kill a Mongolian Horse
Comment: ALT2 and ALT3 do not require the image of the flag to be understood.

Improved to Good Article status by Yue (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 32 past nominations.

Yue🌙 06:01, 25 March 2025 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

Cited:
Interesting:
Other problems:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Approved to GA, great article and compelling hook. ALT1 seems tighter, I think with 'machete' catching the eye. No Swan So Fine (talk) 22:28, 27 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]